Thread 42 Sunak : Ping Pong with the Enemies of the People

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I don't understand. the Lords must have known those (limited)reviews were already happening. Why fold now?

Nice to know that Tory MPs are on the wine in Downing Street celebrating. Don't suppose suitcases were required to bring it in this time.

Matt Green - not tetchy

x.com/mattgreencomedy/status/1782480566975074383?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

Found you all!

Gosh there's a lot of chat to try and keep up with!

Loving the new thread title.

Commons are now considering the Lord’s amendment on the Bill.

The Rwanda is safe forever even if a war breaks out bill

It's the only sane place sometimes.

I'm even more of an irritable leftie than usual tonight. I feel sick at the thought of the Rwanda bill passing. Not least because it feels like the beginning of the death of democracy in the UK.

I think the beginning started a while ago. Probably about the time of the proroguing of Parliament. It sort of carried on with the Tories removing as much scrutiny as possible. I’m hoping this is the end point and as far as it goes.

The end point will be when they’re booted out. Hopefully they’ll totally implode and be out of business for a couple of decades.

On a tangent (and behind a paywall);

"Labour will send National Audit Office to investigate Teesworks if they win election"

That'll be fun!

Commons voting on Lords amendment now.

https://x.com/premnsikka/status/1782505600917635339

The next vote will be after midnight which advantages Tories, many of whom live in London or have second homes in London. Those living elsewhere will need to catch the last train home and miss the vote.

Terror tactics by the govt to subvert parliament.

Don't all MPs have London residences? Not sure about that

I thought there were hotels in London, I’m sure I remember staying in one.

Lords amendment rejected 312 to 237

https://twitter.com/PARLYapp

There now seems to be a vote on some sort of committee to be set up and I have no idea what is going on. 🤷‍♀️

Bastards.

Difficult to see where this ends up? I don’t see the Lords being ready to give up on this point yet.

But it’s the crux of the bill for the Tories. We can say an unsafe country is not and nobody can tell us different.

I did read there is a limit to how many times they can do this. 14? Hang on til I see if I can find it

Just checking in

I think there’s a thing where the Lords can send the amendment back with the same wording and the commons has to either vote it through or the bill is lost. Double insistence maybe.

What a mess.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2024/apr/22/conservatives-labour-sunak-rwanda-bill-afghans-uk-politics-live?page=with:block-6626dff88f08eae6d25f237b#block-6626dff88f08eae6d25f237b

Guardian are reporting that the Lord’s are not going to amend this time and will vote the Bill through. Hope their source is wrong and when the debate starts they do send it back. What was the point otherwise?

That's what the BBC said as well. What is the point if you are going to capitulate when the going gets tough?

We really care about the rule of law. Just not that much. What was the point?

I don't know how much more the HoL can do.

Sunak wants this bill, he might as well be associated with it forever.