Thread 42 Sunak : Ping Pong with the Enemies of the People

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Dammit I missed a trick with my PiP renewal, bet wouldn’t still be waiting five months for an answer, all I needed was a photo of me standing by a tape measure rather than all that medical evidence. only my dignity that was bruised Blossom was very funny would have gone viral on tik tok if mobile phones had the videoing feature back then😂

@bombastix I think Rishi has been reading this thread, he’s been out running 😱 https://x.com/rishisunak/status/1783496206276071848?s=61&t=xKCXjKa1-S6Ks0nSd_LXGg

I don't know how he does it but I can actually feel my face cringing whenever I see Rishi trying to be a "man of the people".

Loved the bit where he said something to the effect of "there's no need for us to do actual policy when people like you can just be inspiring to the poor folk with MH issues". That's when I stopped watching.

Excellent news about Fox. Couldn't happen to a nicer person. It's like the opposite of a GoFund Me😀

The shadow transport secretary was brilliant in her explanations about it and the costings etc. Their rationale etc and the timings it would take, how they would do it and why.

I heard her on GMB and R4 this morning and was impressed.

From Hansard

While posing next to submarines, Labour Members—several Front-Bench Members—voted to scrap our deterrent and are refusing to match our baseline on defence spending. While Labour Members criticise and sneer at those who celebrate the St George’s flag, they are allowing some of them to occupy the Labour Front Bench. Today’s Labour party is packed with the same old socialists and a few new plastic patriots, and no amount of window dressing—

Dawn Butler
(Brent Central) (Lab)

On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. [Interruption.]
Madam Deputy Speaker
(Dame Eleanor Laing)
Order. Before the Leader of the House finishes, I can take a point of order if it relates directly to the matters that we are discussing.

Dawn Butler
Absolutely, Madam Deputy Speaker. The Leader of the House is misleading the House. [Interruption.] The Leader of the House just said—

Madam Deputy Speaker
Order. Hold on. The hon. Lady cannot accuse the Leader of the House of misleading the House. That would be quite wrong and, if the Leader of the House had done something along those lines, I would have stopped her immediately. If the hon. Lady means that she disagrees with the Leader of the House, that is a different matter.

Dawn Butler
Madam Deputy Speaker, it is a matter of fact that Labour Members celebrated St George’s day. We all put it on our social media, and the leader of our party has made a point of wrapping himself in the flag. The Leader of the House is completely incorrect in what she just said to the House.

Madam Deputy Speaker
I think the hon. Lady means that anything that the Leader of the House might have said would have been inadvertently misleading.

Dawn Butler
I hope that the Leader of the House will correct the record right now.

Madam Deputy Speaker
I wanted to take that point of order while the Leader of the House was still on her feet. I am quite sure that the Leader of the House did not intend to make any misdirection. Would she care to take that point?

Penny Mordaunt
I had finished my response to the hon. Member for Manchester Central (Lucy Powell), but I am happy to add: the truth hurts.

So how do you accuse someone of lying in the House of Commons?

"refusing to match our baseline on defence spending."

The spending they can't back up without some magical thinking? The spending that means cuts to other services. That spending?

Certain media outlets are criticising the announcement on rail saying it's unfunded without criticising the announcement on defence spending and it's dodgy accounting and funding questions.

It's ridiculous.

Best for Britain have a Yes or No poll on this

https://x.com/BestForBritain/status/1783559107129061805

Increasing speculation in Westminster that Sunak could call the General Election tomorrow or Monday. Do you think it’s possible?

I think it's a No, Sunak will hang on as long as possible

Someone in my local shop had put these new Private Eyes in a row on the magazine shelf

Oh, please don't give me false hope!

According to this, if he dissolves Parliament by 30th April it means 6th June for a GE.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9921/

Surely the Tories would love the association with D Day.

I think I’ll be tempted to have a self imposed Mumsnet ban for the duration of the campaign as I can’t see it being good for my blood pressure.

I love the comment below:

Looks like a huge scandal is coming to light thanks to the Good Law project, maybe this is the best time for him to call the election so he can escape back to US before he lands in jail.

I do hope so.

Is the scandal linked to shares in Moderna and government money? I read something but will admit I was a bit too distracted to follow the line of argument.

Huge scandal?

Moderna?

Off to google 👀

There's definitely been an upturn in one track mind posters over the last week.

Found this

Very pleased to say that, following our challenge, Rishi Sunak has been ordered to disclose his dealings, including on text and WhatsApp, with his former hedge fund Theleme over its lucrative investment in Moderna.

And we have just heard from our lawyers that HM Treasury has appealed the ICO's decision. Transparent about whether Rishi Sunak has benefitted from public money going to his old hedge fund? He's like a vampire confronted with sunlight.

https://x.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1783391055179612387

I imagine he will have lost his WAs.

Undoubtedly. I wonder what the excuse will be this time?

Thing is that whether this is true or not, actual disclosure could take a long time. Even then it would not necessarily be some sort of smoking gun that would mean a very swift election; I thought this game was about trying to get Labour to spend money on election prep too early.

Yes, the link between Sunak/Theleme has been reported since 2020 but very little of substance has been established. I'm sure Sunak has lots of lefty lawyers on hand to protect his interests.

I can't imagine Sunak calling a summer election. But I hope I'm wrong.

I think the sad but true fact is it'll be be decades if ever we find out about the true corruption of this current government.

I think it's there though with all the mud slinging.

It has similarities with the PO scandal.

Attacked the little people as a form of defence.

Has Chris Philp made it on here yet?

https://twitter.com/RussInCheshire/status/1783595437506621613