All these people taking weight loss appetite suppressant drugs?!!

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Is it me or is this a bit sinister?

The thyroid cancer link has been debunked already.

Even so, Novo Nordisk, the manufacturers of Ozempic, Wegovy, Saxenda, and so on, do list thyroid cancer as a potential side effect of each medicine and warn against use if medullary thyroid carcinoma runs in the family.

The gastroparesis, retinopathy, gallstones, pancreatitis, bowel obstruction, and kidney disease links have not been debunked, meanwhile.

All the medications I take have a lengthy list of possible side effects this one is no different. Are diabetics having all these side effects or is it just special punishment reserved for the fatties?

Isn’t ozempic face just weight loss face? There’s that saying isn’t there that as you get older you choose your face or your arse! Some celebs such as Scott whatshisname Kardashian bloke has admitted he’s carried on using ozempic when he should have stopped and he’s lost too much. It’s not a side effect of the drug as such.

Being overweight is rarely a medical issue.

Chronic obesity is a medical issue.

It becomes a medical issue but it’s often a MH issue, trauma, stress, depression, anxiety all play their part. Until society understands that and the powers that be address it then nothing will change.

Im T2 diabetic, overweight and about to go on the diabetes remission pathway….12 weeks of meal replacement and follow ups for a year.

It’s that or I am going to have to self fund Wegovy as we currently have no service in my local area who can prescribe it…even if it was available.

But there’s also more and more research saying that there is a genetic reason behind low satiety for many people. So some people due to a medical reason feel hungrier than others. So if you’re someone affected by this and feel permanently hungry you are going to eat more than someone who genetically feels full up after eating a small amount

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/319209

This is me.
I don't have any trauma or big issues around food, I'm just always hungry. If my sister and I are given the same plate of food, she'll eat until she's full and I will eat it all because I won't feel full. It has been the same since we were young children.

I think it’s mad unless specifically recommended if someone is diabetic. There is no long term evidence of the effects. I bet half the people using the weight loss injections refused a Covid jab

What a bizarre statement. Of course I didn't refuse a covid jab. I believe in science, which is why I'm happy to take a well researched, effective and fully licensed treatment.
I bet most of those now banging on about putting chemicals in their body did take a covid jab.

I bet half the people using the weight loss injections refused a Covid jab

I think it is more likely that those of us who go down the medication route for weight loss would have taken the Covid jab. Thank goodness no one is forced to take either Wegovy/Mounjaro or the Covid jab (some people did die with that too) but we can all weigh up the risks and benefits for ourselves and make a personal decision.

Unfortunately, some people make moral judgements about other people’s personal decision (in both cases) when it isn’t actually any of their business.

All those over 40s who had Astra Zeneca once the very tiny risk was becoming apparent are a good example of people looking at possible side effects of a drug and deciding the benefits outweighed the risks. Just like most of us have done the research on the drugs we are taking and know there is a small risk of pancreatitis or even gastroparesis and have looked to see what the warning signs would be but also know of the health risks of obesity and have weighed all this up before starting.

I think you should go do some research and learn about the drug before just making random statements with no understanding to give your opinion. I think you didn't have the covid vaccine because 'there is no long term evidence of the effects'

Having had life changing reactions to a few prescription drugs, I don’t think anything can be described as safe.

Ludicrous comment. Most of them will actually have been offered (and had) multiple covid jabs due to an increase risk from covid infection due to obesity.

Possibly not but all medication is a balance of risk. Most patient information leaflets have lengthy lists of side effects.

The risk of the medication also needs to be set against the risk of the illness, condition etc. Having a BMI of 45 is also risky.

I was a bit anti the idea of wegovy but I had put on 3 stone due to the HRT I was put on and literally tried everything else to lose it. I exercise a huge amount and know how to eat healthily but the weight would not shift. I have now taken Wegovy for five months and lost the entire 3 stone. I feel so much better and healthier. My goal is now to lose a bit more to be in the good weight zone vs my height etc, and then work hard at maintaining the weight without Wegovy. I would rather not have relied on injections but I was at my wits end and am truly grateful it exists.

@tobee why? They did it with tobacco and arguably our crap diets are killing us just as much, and if not killing us, making us life very unhealthy lives.

I'm not calling for an all out ban of junk food. But there should be a greater proportion of fresh and unprocessed foods versus the other. And snacks, crisps, chocolate etc shouldn't be allowed to be advertised. It's very hard to lose weight when all you see at checkouts and in 70% of the shops is crap food.

It's been good to see more companies making less processed food but it needs to go further.

Humans aren't as in control of themselves as they like to think, we want to be healthy but most of us are failing. We need big change and the emphasis to be on the big powers rather than individuals.

I don't believe you what's her height and weight.

BMI is based on height and weight
I am 5.8 not in the obese range and 200lbs clearly not "skinny"

Nothing in life is 100% safe.

WitchyWay said

I'm not calling for an all out ban of junk food. But there should be a greater proportion of fresh and unprocessed foods versus the other. And snacks, crisps, chocolate etc shouldn't be allowed to be advertised. It's very hard to lose weight when all you see at checkouts and in 70% of the shops is crap food.

Whilst agreeing overall, food doesn't need to be unprocessed, just not ultra processed. Tinned tuna for example, yoghurt etc
And it's really doesn't need to be fresh. Freezing can preserve nutrients compared to nutrient loss over time during transport etc.
I'm a big proponent of some frozen food especially for price. Green beans for example in Aldi:
Fresh 220g 89p
Frozen: 1kg £1.19

Freezing also reduces waste imo - I wouldn't be able to add mixed berries to yogurt unless they were frozen

It surprises your appetite you don’t want to eat as much

At 5.8 and 200lbs, you are in the obese range, albeit at the lower end.

@violetlozenge
You are correct I'm 3 lbs into obese but my point still stands someone tall and skinny is not classed as obese clearly.
At 5ft8 obese starts at 197
At 5ft9obese starts at 204
At 5ft10 obese starts 210

All tall heights none of which could be classed as "skinny"

With a higher than average muscle mass they may look "fit" but will not be skinny

One good thing about the new weight loss medications is that they have been introduced with such fanfare and with so much coverage, that the side-effect, of which there are undoubtedly some, are already quite well known. If I had digestive problems, or a thyroid issue, this would not be a route I would take. I am more hopeful that by mass disclosure and use, these side-effects are going to be better monitored, with higher awareness than in the past. I do believe there are significant side-effects because the best thing to do would be not to interfere with 'normal' digestion, but unfortunately because a lot of what we eat is very bad for us, that ship has already sailed and the second best thing is to have awareness of how these drugs work and the potential problems. No-one has to take them though, and I do get a whiff of 'people should have to suffer more' about the whole objection to them- news flash, they are quite unpleasant and you still have to eat less and diet (I mean eating less as you feel sick or have an upset stomach on it is kind of a win but still not nice) and do exercise and take supplements, and up protein and do all the things people had to do in the past, but with an extra edge of not feeling ravenous all the time.