All these people taking weight loss appetite suppressant drugs?!!

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Is it me or is this a bit sinister?

That’s not how they work,stunned the op is saying exactly when even her title shows she knows it’s an apetite suppressant. But then she did post she thinks alcoholics take them.

It's not dealing with the underlying issue which is sugar/ alcohol addiction and lack of exercise/ stress/ anxiety.

yeah you did. We can all read it.

@Janetime can you read?

I think there's a place for them, when other options aren't working. It is better than someone remaining obese and further damaging their health (&costing the NHS more in the long run).

I do think psychological support/ therapy should be used alongside medication to try and help people come off these drugs and maintain a healthy weight. But there's no funding for that of course because it doesn't make anyone rich!

Behind all this though.... Creating another life long medical 'need' is what the big chemical companies want... This injection for cholesterol, that one for weight loss, pills to keep you happy... all while pushing fat and sugar laden 'fake' food at us and social media (to sell to us and simultaneously make us feel depressed)... we're being sold the problem and the remedies and buying both!

I disagree that being overweight is a medical issue. It’s actually a lifestyle issue in the vast majority of cases.

I disagree that COPD is a medical issue. It's actually a lifestyle issue in the majority of cases (caused by smoking!)

Why is one illness (copd) taken seriously and ok to be treated with drugs and medical equipment yet another (obesity) not? Both caused by lifestyle choices the majority of times. All they had to do was not smoke just like all fat people had to do was not over eat. Easy right? 🙄

Gosh what a revolutionary idea. Why don't you do that then?
People have been given this advice for 50 years but it doesn't help because obesity is very complex. No one wants to be obese, If it was easy then no one would be.

Can you explain then, why so many people can eat as much as they like and never gain 1lb, and others only need to look at a calorie to gain weight?
The medical issue is that this is never, ever explored. We need to know why person A has a metabolism that allows them to eat double what person B eats.
But no. The rhetoric continues. Fat people are ALL fat because they binge all day. Make bad lifestyle choices. That makes slim people feel better about themselves.

Personal accountability and education is failing at a population level. A very high percentage of people who lose weight regain it plus a bit more. We live in an obsesogenic environment and as a country what are the options? Go in hard with food regulation - with accusations of being the nanny state and economic implications or come up with new solutions including these drugs which are tested and work.

It would be amazing if we could all find the motivation to lose weight via healthy eating and exercise but it seems we can’t for some reason. It’s not as though we haven’t been trying at a national and individual level. Personally I would prefer the regulation route but I can see it is impractical. So I am glad there is an another option to help people trying to be healthy.

I disagree that COPD is a medical issue. It's actually a lifestyle issue in the majority of cases (caused by smoking!)

this is a bad analogy because COPD isn’t reversible in the same way that obesity is

Definitely sinister. I'm seeing a massive rise on my social media of people selling weight loss supplements alongside pictures of people when they were fat and now much slimmer after a few weeks apparently. This can not ne good for the body so yes it's sinister. They are praying on people's vulnerabilities such as low self esteem and the need for a quick fix. Very sinister. People on Ozempic, losing the weight but looking 30 years older due to speedy loss of collagen etc. sinister.

Sinister was the correct word.

Weight loss = eat less crap and exercise.

I'm one of the people who has used it, I'm 53lbs lighter since November and feeling bloody fantastic because of it.

I did get a few side effects but I had worse side effects from eating a shit diet and being obese. I'm taking my last dose on Monday and have no idea if I'll put it back on, I know I don't want to and am going to do everything not to.

My obesity was caused by snacking and I got to a point where I was bloody miserable and kept failing because it seemed like such a huge mountain to climb, I'd diet for a few days, fall off the wagon, feel guilt, self loathing and head to the biscuit cupboard.
Wegovy is like liquid willpower, I haven't wanted to snack or binge and the weight has come off without me really thinking about it.
If someone has never had an issue with food then you won't understand what it's like to constantly have thoughts of food and wanting to eat, Wegovy took all that food noise away.

I have zero regrets about taking it, I look and feel better than I have in years, I'm going swimming today in my new size 12 swimming costume and wouldn't have dreamt of going last year as a size 18/20 because of the embarrassment.

I sort of get what you mean. It’s obviously better if people can manage their weight naturally, through healthy eating and exercise. For some people, for myriad reasons, that’s just not possible though so on balance I think they do more good than harm.

I have a sister who is close in age to me. We had the exact same upbringing. She has always been effortlessly slim. I have always found it a battle. Even as small children I could eat twice as much as her. She gets full quickly and I never get full 😂She can eat as much as she wants because she wants to eat very little. My body wants to eat all the time. I remember being 6 and my dad asking me what I wanted for my birthday breakfast. I asked for 6 slices of toast 😂(I didnt get them) My appetite has always far exceeded my calorie needs. Unless I consciously restrict how much I eat then I will gain. My sister doesn't have to think about it, her body does it for her.

I would like to respectfully ask though, what do you intend to do when you stop taking Wegovy as your appetite will return stronger than ever?

At the moment it is only recommended to take for up to 2 years so it isn’t a long term solution for most people.

I don’t think it’s sinister, I think it’s fantastic.

People that resort to Ozempic etc don’t do it flippantly. It’s usually because they have had a lifetime of misery and unsuccessful dieting. I know someone that has lost 4 stone so far using ozempic and it’s been life-changing for her.

They're not appetite suppressants by the way

Is it sinister for diabetics who are prescribed it?

Or only sinister for people who might become diabetic if they dont lose weight and so take it to try to be proactive?

(type 2 of course for any wingers that come on and moan that Im lumping all diabetics together)

They are effectively appetite suppressants though @soupfiend

I know because I tried Ozempic and had zero appetite while taking it

Op please educate yourself on these medications before posting a goady scaremongering thread. So irresponsible.

I used them too, they're not an appetite suppressant in the traditional way such as speed etc.

It shuts down food noise, or did for me, I had an appetite but it was easily satiated, normal amounts satisfied whereas like another poster said, usually nothing would satisfy. It works on your hunger hormones for want of a better description. Not only that, but the type of food that satisfied me was completely different

I didnt stay on it because I couldnt bear having an injection and found I was avoiding it and so not consistent. I had no side effects except weight loss. I believe its a wonderful intervention for those that can tolerate it

My partner has been on it for around 4/5 years now (the same drug) and will likely stay on this, I dont know where someone got the idea that you can only take it for 2 years, certainly that isnt the medical plan for him as a diabetic.

My diet and lifestyle is very different now from when I started. I have a very set routine of what I eat and how much. I make sure it's very healthy and balanced. Without the extra weight exercise is easier, I run, I cycle to work and am generally more active.
I'm acutely aware of the risk of regain and sustainable lifestyle changes have always been front and centre of my mind. I stop the drug in 5 weeks and my plan is continue exactly as I am. I know that it will be challenging, but the plan is to change nothing about what I'm doing right now.

As someone who dropped 2 stone thanks to Metformin, I’d have to disagree! What’s more, I didn’t actually need to do anything else or work at it. I ate normally, didn’t restrict food at all, and didn’t change my exercise routine. It just came off slowly - probably because Metformin allowed me to be a ‘normal’ person who could be a healthy weight just by eating decent food and exercising. Insulin resistance had led to me being unable to shift pregnancy weight. Metformin fixed that. I work hard at a lot of things in life, I didn’t feel a need to work hard at this!

Personally, I think there is a significant lack of research into weight management for women and the role of hormones. I know so many women eating very little and slamming themselves in the gym, yet finding themselves unable to shift the pounds. My guess is that hormonal factors have a huge impact on weight.

I’m at the stage I’m tracking toward losing too much weight, which I’m guessing is hormonal too, as not much has changed, if anything!

It’s always been the way. Back in the 1950s and 60s people took amphetamine based drugs to help weight loss.

In the past I would have agreed with you on this. Of course this is only anecdotal but I recently went out for afternoon tea with a big group of friends. Two are obese, the rest are not. The two who are obese both chose to have their afternoon tea with hot chocolate, whipped cream and marshmallows. The rest of us chose tea. That's an extra few hundred calories they had. Over decades those choices add up to obesity...

I don't want to sound judgy but to say it's all down to metabolism is blatantly wrong.

Also a dodgy plan!

There's always a vibe on these threads of:
The fat thickos think it's a miracle cure when they just need to stop stuffing Mars bars into their stupid faces.

Actually some of us fatties (well ex fatties 😁) are of reasonable intelligence and started the drug with our eyes wide open. I know exactly how it works, the limitations and future challenges because I informed myself before starting and decided it was right for me. I'm paying for it myself so it's no one else's business really.