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Who should pay for this funeral?

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aquestiontoanswer · 16/04/2024 17:38

This man was a father to 3 adult DC, but very distant and largely absent from their early teens onwards, (ran away from the family home with another OW, whom he later married). In last few years he saw his adult DC at Christmas for a couple of hours but otherwise never kept in touch. Kept emotionally distant and DC didn't know where he lived or the name of his new wife.

The man was declared bankrupt a couple of years ago. Apparently he has left nothing behind, no property, no pension, and his wife is left penniless. His ex-wife (the DC's Mum) also facing financial hardship. All 3 DC are adults in their 20's, working on normal / average incomes.

Who should pay for the funeral? Should the DC's pay for the funeral?

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GoldenTrout · 17/04/2024 00:48

SheilaFentiman · 16/04/2024 23:54

Ok, the ex wife/DC’s mother is getting a lot of criticism here, being told to butt out etc. Nice.

But once upon a time, she loved this man enough to marry him and have three children with him. Presumably they spent a number of years living together.

I can imagine feeling very uneasy in this circumstance that the father of my children was being cremated without ceremony or a note of his passing.

I don’t think she should pressure her kids, but emotionally, I can see where she’s coming from.

Perhaps a little compassion for her from posters??

Would you not feel more uneasy about the fact that your children had basically been cut out of this man's life from the moment he felt like going after another woman? Would you not be angry with him for doing that to your children? If he couldn't be bothered to support them as a father in life, why should they be expected to produce one penny on his behalf after his death?

GoldenTrout · 17/04/2024 00:50

It sounds a little as if the ex would like to take over the funeral as a sort of two fingers up to the OW. Fair enough, but only if she wants to pay herself.

OVienna · 17/04/2024 00:58

aquestiontoanswer · 16/04/2024 17:58

The ex wife believes the "family" should pay, out of a sense of duty and sentiment but doesn't have the money herself.

No. Isn't she actually technically his NoK?

Ponderingwindow · 17/04/2024 01:57

The reality is that there is a difference between the safe disposal of human remains and a funeral. The government will step in and take care of the former, but a funeral is for the surviving family and friends. Any kind of memorial is entirely optional.

when someone says, who should pay for the funeral, I take that to mean a service or memorial of some type.

tattychicken · 17/04/2024 02:55

Re Bereavement Support Payment, I believe it is the age of the surviving spouse that is relevant. Is the current wife/widow under retirement age?

Who should pay for this funeral?
HoppingPavlova · 17/04/2024 03:33

The kids should not pay. It’s up to the current wife and if she can’t pay then the local authority will manage it.

ohfook · 17/04/2024 03:49

Personally I think nobody involved should be expressing an opinion on who pays unless they are also contributing. It seems like the adult children are getting pressured to pay by people with no intention of paying themselves.

VenetiaHallisWellPosh · 17/04/2024 03:50

The wife needs to sort it out. If she can't pay I'm sure the FD will tell her what to do next. When DFiL died the FD was very helpful in signposting.

However, if there is NO MONEY AT ALL yes, go for bereavement benefit, it's easy to find on .Gov.Uk.

The DC shouldn't pay, unless they want to, which I doubt very much.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 17/04/2024 04:13

@aquestiontoanswer actually, legally, the person who organises this funeral is the person who is liable to pay for it!! the next of kin is the current wife so she should be putting her hand in her pocket but she can apply to the dss for financial assistance for financial assistance then they will pay for the cheapest cremation with absolutely no frills. the family friend should be wary of what they are organising

SheilaFentiman · 17/04/2024 09:02

GoldenTrout · 17/04/2024 00:48

Would you not feel more uneasy about the fact that your children had basically been cut out of this man's life from the moment he felt like going after another woman? Would you not be angry with him for doing that to your children? If he couldn't be bothered to support them as a father in life, why should they be expected to produce one penny on his behalf after his death?

It’s perfectly possible to feel all those things.

You can be aware someone behaved shittily and still have fond feelings about the good times. Especially if you made three kids with them.

I’m not saying the mum is right to pressure the kids. I was protesting some of the harsh language used against someone who has recently lost, forever, the father of her children, along with any hopes that he might get back in touch with them etc.

My great uncle was a sexist so and so, he was also a talented painter, an interesting conversationalist, a former RAF pilot… I mourned his death and I am glad he got a funeral. Those we love, or loved, leave us with many emotions.

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