Thread 41 How many more MPs will Sunak lose?

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New thread. I took the liberty - the old one was at 999!

Yeah, they are barely concealing themselves now.

Sources suggesting that of 67 MPs who voted against smoking ban, 58 were Tories and 6 of those were ministers: Kemi Badenoch, Julia Lopez, Alex Burghart, Steve Baker, Lee Rowley and Andrew Griffith

Interesting that Lee Rowley, Alex Burghart and Julia Lopez were all on Badenoch's leadership campaign team...

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Why don't they just get on with it then?

Or are they all mouth and no trousers?

I think they probably need to pin failures in the local elections on him first.

That’s why I’m gobsmacked he didn’t call a GE on the same day. He seems intent on handing them ammunition.

I see the new Deputy Chairman voted No as well - not very supportive is he.

Also all of the DUP … which is surprising, surely they regard smoking as unchristian!

I am increasing thinking that Sunak is a deep plant intent on creating the destruction of the Tory party.

You might well be on to something there.

A senior Tory Lords source tells me they are furious Rwanda legislation not being voted on by MPs this side of Easter, pours scorn on idea Royal Assent doesn’t change and says they won’t be able to get anything like the turnout of yesterday after treating them with contempt yesterday.

There was a huge whipping operation to get that turnout yesterday because they were told it was an emergency and urgent.

After sending MPs home on 1 line whip, this influential tory peer said they can “forget it” getting anything like that turnout again.

Found this on a previous thread from the last time the Rwanda bill was in the Lords. They did whip it last time and then pissed off their peers by kicking it into the long grass after telling them it was urgent. Poor underpaid peers having to turn up to vote.

Oh yes, I'd forgotten about that.

Hopefully it can bounce back and forth a bit so that we’re nearer to an election and no flight will ever take off.

Rwanda may have to wait a bit for their next £50million.

They still need to find a flight provider. No idea how they’ll do that when even the Rwandan state owned airline won’t because of reputational damage.

Was the smoking vote a free vote?

Yes it was Tobee

Thanks @IClaudine . Thought it must have been.

https://twitter.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1780368850673906023

Rishi Sunak will now use leased RAF Voyagers to fly migrants to Rwanda after airlines refused to take part

RAF personnel or AirTanker staff will be used to man the flights "whether they like it or not"

They'll probably buy their own plane as money seems no object as long as they get someone flown there

Hadn't seen the post about RAF planes.

It's even worse to be right

I had previously thought, based on little evidence that the West Mids Mayor election might save Sunak.

It appears my thinking was wrong.

https://redfieldandwiltonstrategies.com/west-midlands-mayoral-election-voting-intention-10-14-april-2024/

Relying on RAF personnel to obey orders, huh?

Honestly, at this point anyone who lowers themselves to vote Tory can fuck off. I really hope no one I care about does, as I will never feel the same about them.

Good to know @JessS1990

This is the most recent (only) polling I can find for Tees Mayor.

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/24172359.new-poll-gives-labour-lead-tees-valley-mayoral-election/

Probably not as robust as the West Mids one, but perhaps an indication that Sunak will be in trouble on 3rd May.

What was striking about the article was that the original contract for flights was worth £78 million pounds.

In other news the costs to set up military barracks at Wethersfield and Scampton as asylum accomodation was assessed as £5 per site. It has actually cost £49 million and £27 million.
Wonder which Tory donors benefitted from that.

Not sure how relevant it is to this thread since it's not a decision the government made, but happy to discuss Michaela . Already mentioned Braverman's 'British' comment upthread.

Sorry that should read £5 million per site not £5!

I wonder how many official objections to orders there will be from pilots when they receive those orders.