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Thread 41 How many more MPs will Sunak lose?

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BIossomtoes · 14/04/2024 09:45

New thread. I took the liberty - the old one was at 999!

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JessS1990 · 17/04/2024 11:28

Piggywaspushed · 17/04/2024 11:20

See, we don't all agree on everything. We are not a hive mind. Yay for us!!

Likewise Sunak doesn't agree with everything that Rishi thinks.
For instance he wants to ban smoking because of the harm it causes, but wants to increase traffic because of the harm it causes.

Piggywaspushed · 17/04/2024 11:31
Grin
bombastix · 17/04/2024 11:32

@SerendipityJane - I construe religious freedom in the sense that the state stopped organising its institutions implicitly (or some explicitly) around Christianity: I am pretty firm that state institutions should not be in a hurry to adopt religious requirements now of any kind. England had relative religious freedom for years but I do think this is often talked about as if the diversity of religious faith outside of Christianity being our dominant culture has always been a thing. As you point out, the just

bombastix · 17/04/2024 11:33

Historical picture is different. (Pressed post by accident!)

Piggywaspushed · 17/04/2024 11:37

I'd be more than happy if a school was indeed secular. I am just not convinced Michaela is.

However, I also wouldn't want to go down the road of banning headscarves, longer skirts etc. I vaguely recall a battle over headscarves at M or a similar school and there was also the once left wing, liberal school that got taken over, raised the union flag, put pictures of the queen and PM everywhere, made students swear oaths and banned afros and headscarves (there remained some controversy about the colour of the scarves if I recall). Forgotten its name atm.

I think KB originally wanted to ban Muslim dress but realised she would lose support.

Piggywaspushed · 17/04/2024 11:39

I'd say my school is 100% secular. You wouldn't even really know religion was a thing/ But is till has a prayer room junk room /meeting room/vomiting child room

Lion400 · 17/04/2024 11:43

L1ttledrummergirl · 17/04/2024 11:18

What a crock of shit! Fuck me these people are getting desperate. More conspiracy bollocks.

What a crock of shit!

Fuck me these people are getting desperate.

More conspiracy bollocks.
**

Your articulate analysis knows no bounds!

L1ttledrummergirl · 17/04/2024 11:56

That pile of crap doesn't deserve articulate analysis.

Lion400 · 17/04/2024 12:07

L1ttledrummergirl · 17/04/2024 11:56

That pile of crap doesn't deserve articulate analysis.

I see. So kind of supporting some of the findings in the said ‘pile of crap’ / ‘crock of shit’ / ‘conspiracy bollocks’.

SerendipityJane · 17/04/2024 12:09

L1ttledrummergirl · 17/04/2024 11:56

That pile of crap doesn't deserve articulate analysis.

but a ChatGPT precis ?

Thread 41  How many more MPs will Sunak lose?
DuncinToffee · 17/04/2024 12:12

'but Angela Rayner' is the new 'but Corbyn' in PMQs

Not sure if it has the same impact Confused

DuncinToffee · 17/04/2024 13:05

https://x.com/PippaCrerar/status/1780560582455828956

Rishi Sunak considering concessions on Rwanda deportation bill to allow exemptions for Afghans who served alongside UK forces, sources tell @syalrajeev

Labour a/ment in Lords secured biggest majority - of 57 - with peers backing it by 275 votes to 218, in last night’s votes.

Lion400 · 17/04/2024 13:15

From another thread.

‘How predictable that so many women think you should forget your daughters’ basic rights today to safety, dignity and comfort - to not be called a ‘person with ovaries’ or ‘chest feeder’ because of so many other issues. NB no one ever said to BLM - ‘but what about poverty?’ etc. No one ever says that to gay rights campaigners or transactivists.

They only ever expect women to put their rights last.

If Labour cared about those other issues why are they obsessing over ‘trans rights’ and risking alienating women? ALSO you can talk about poverty etc - please remember that it is the most vulnerable women who suffer most under gender ideology. Women and girls who are disabled (especially those needing intimate care), elderly women with dementia, women admitted to hospital, women who don’t speak English, women in prison, victims of sexual assault and victims of domestic violence.

Labour are putting the wants of MEN far above the needs and the rights of all those women’

Labour are putting the wants of MEN far above the needs and the rights of all those women’

bombastix · 17/04/2024 13:23

Piggywaspushed · 17/04/2024 11:39

I'd say my school is 100% secular. You wouldn't even really know religion was a thing/ But is till has a prayer room junk room /meeting room/vomiting child room

Tbh in my view the best thing a prayer room can do is be a practical receptacle for junk. But in the Micheala case such a room would never have met the claimed need. You can go too big too soon on claims for religious needs!

DuncinToffee · 17/04/2024 13:23

Can you at least link the thread you are quoting from so we can see the context?

Notonthestairs · 17/04/2024 13:24

DuncinToffee · 17/04/2024 13:05

https://x.com/PippaCrerar/status/1780560582455828956

Rishi Sunak considering concessions on Rwanda deportation bill to allow exemptions for Afghans who served alongside UK forces, sources tell @syalrajeev

Labour a/ment in Lords secured biggest majority - of 57 - with peers backing it by 275 votes to 218, in last night’s votes.

Nothing on victims of modern slavery? Even May was in support of that amendment.

SerendipityJane · 17/04/2024 13:26

DuncinToffee · 17/04/2024 13:05

https://x.com/PippaCrerar/status/1780560582455828956

Rishi Sunak considering concessions on Rwanda deportation bill to allow exemptions for Afghans who served alongside UK forces, sources tell @syalrajeev

Labour a/ment in Lords secured biggest majority - of 57 - with peers backing it by 275 votes to 218, in last night’s votes.

Aren't there some Tory headbangers who are likely to vote against it if Sunak does water it down ?

The choice of this hill as the epitaph for "the Sunak years" is baffling and sinister in turns.

DuncinToffee · 17/04/2024 13:27

Notonthestairs · 17/04/2024 13:24

Nothing on victims of modern slavery? Even May was in support of that amendment.

So much in support that she didn't vote on it

But no, I haven't seen modern slavery being mentioned.

cardibach · 17/04/2024 13:29

Lion400 · 17/04/2024 13:15

From another thread.

‘How predictable that so many women think you should forget your daughters’ basic rights today to safety, dignity and comfort - to not be called a ‘person with ovaries’ or ‘chest feeder’ because of so many other issues. NB no one ever said to BLM - ‘but what about poverty?’ etc. No one ever says that to gay rights campaigners or transactivists.

They only ever expect women to put their rights last.

If Labour cared about those other issues why are they obsessing over ‘trans rights’ and risking alienating women? ALSO you can talk about poverty etc - please remember that it is the most vulnerable women who suffer most under gender ideology. Women and girls who are disabled (especially those needing intimate care), elderly women with dementia, women admitted to hospital, women who don’t speak English, women in prison, victims of sexual assault and victims of domestic violence.

Labour are putting the wants of MEN far above the needs and the rights of all those women’

Labour are putting the wants of MEN far above the needs and the rights of all those women’

Could you demonstrate where Labour are ‘obsessing over trans rights’ please? I must have missed it.

DuncinToffee · 17/04/2024 13:31

cardibach · 17/04/2024 13:29

Could you demonstrate where Labour are ‘obsessing over trans rights’ please? I must have missed it.

Better not as it will turn into a TAAT

cardibach · 17/04/2024 13:32

DuncinToffee · 17/04/2024 13:31

Better not as it will turn into a TAAT

Good point. I withdraw the request for the non existent evidence.

BIossomtoes · 17/04/2024 13:43

John Crace is brilliant. I really couldn’t love him more.

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TheABC · 17/04/2024 13:47

I find this insistence on Christian/secular/pale pink skin tone as a mark of Britishness bewildering. We've had Indian incomers for over a century, Black people here for five hundred years (from tudor times). Judaism has been around for a millenia despite appalling anti-sematism.

You don't have to sing "God Save The King" to be British. A better measure is the ability catch the bartenders' eye at the pub, queue at the drop of a hat and know how to pronounce Worcestershire.

Added bonus: an understated, sarcastic sense of humour and a love of tea.

Lion400 · 17/04/2024 13:48

cardibach · 17/04/2024 13:32

Good point. I withdraw the request for the non existent evidence.

Understood. Confirmation bias shows us that repeating the evidence would have been wasted anyway.

@DuncinToffee It wouldn’t have been a TAAT. I misguidedly thought people here might see the issue, as it’s been repeated often. The what aboutisms.

Still there we are. Horses water drink and all that.

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