Is this an XL Bully?

[Hungrycaterpillarsmummy]

Photo attached.

I definitely thought it was some kind of bully breed!

No, I don't. Nor do I have a Cane Corso..

"Are other large breeds like the Cane Corso and Presa Canaria included in the ban? The government is aware that banning XL bullies may result in other breeds, such as the Cane Corso or Presa Canaria, becoming fashionable, and they are considering what to do in those circumstances. But it’s possible other breeds and crosses between these breeds may be covered in the future"

Ooh this thread is so weird 🤣🤣
No I never had dogs, nor my parents or brother.
My ex boyfriend wasnt a dog walker and dog. boarder and I didn't help him set up his business and help look after the boarding dogs. I didn't offer to my colleagues to look after their dogs when they are on holiday and don't want their dogs to go to kennels. I didn't console my colleague when her dog was put down last week....oh wait, I did all of those things. I also reported to the police a man who was kicking and screaming his alsatian right outside my window.

Seriously mumsnet is such a bizarre place to be. The posts when a kid or adult IS killed by a dog is all for the person, not the dog. I am merely wondering if this dog has the temperament that could kill.

I felt like the dog could do some damage and wondered the breed. That's literally it. And for PPS saying it's traumatising if a dogs put on a kennel it's likely traumatic for family who's loved one has been mauled and killed by a dog.
At the end of the day, they are an animal.

I don't think those posting here questioning you are the weird ones...

It probably is. It's not an XL though.

You can only know the temperament of a dog by spending a lot of time with it. Posting a photo proves nothing, and your posts about it make it sound like it is very well behaved. It was running about in the park, and enjoying playing with a stick.... then the owner saw you were anxious and pulled the dog to the side away from you. I do the same when I pass someone who seems scared (and some kids literally scream, so it is obvious). He then just waited for the group of women and kids, and walked off with them.

All dogs can do damage. And guess what... people hurt other people more than dogs hurt people. I would be more wary of them.

Deffo are!

Yes but I don't imagine owners of dogs that kill were expecting their dogs to on the day they have....

Agree re. people too tbh.

So you don't think it's weird to

1. Take photos of a random dog at the park.
2. Post those pictures online.
3. Discuss at length the fact you think this dog could kill people.
4. With no basis at all think it's acceptable to report this dog for nothing more than being a big dog.
5. Not give a shit if this dog once reported spends weeks or months in kennels being assessed.

And those thinking this is highly illogical behavior are the weird ones...

The owner shouldn't let a large breed like that wander through an ungated children's play area, at what sounds like some distance from the dog. That's so irresponsible.

Parks like the one OP has described are for people and kids. Large dogs should be kept on a lead.

If this dog is a cane corso or mastiff type then it likely has a higher prey drive and bite force than an xl bully or pitbull, so that's small consolation. Breeds like that are working breeds, they should be on farms doing jobs. Not lumbering through kids play parks. The only reasons cane corsos and the like haven't had the bad press that XL bullies have is that backstreet breeders hadn't focused on them to breed badly for profit. Now that the XL bully has been banned, I do wonder whether that will change.

No, I imagine if I reported the dog they may ask for a photo.
I posted online because I wasn't sure if it was an American bully.
Hardly discussed at length, I've posted a few times this morning and a few times after work. That's what a forum is for...
The basis is, i know XLs are a banned breed, it had the look of the lock style jaw, the muscles on it were huge - I don't actually think the photo captures it but when we walked past it I actively thought the muscles were huge and there was no way the guy would be able to hold onto the dog if it did go for my son.

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Actually I think maybe the park even has a sign to say all dogs on leads but this one definitely wasn't.

@Hungrycaterpillarsmummy
“Seriously mumsnet is such a bizarre place to be. The posts when a kid or adult IS killed by a dog is all for the person, not the dog. I am merely wondering if this dog has the temperament that could kill.”

Literally every single big dog has the potential to kill 🤦🏻‍♀️
Yoy are being absolutey ridiculous reporting a dog only because of its breed/looks.

Not if it's a banned breed....

It's obviously not a banned breed. It's just a big dog. Are you going to start reporting labradors or a great danes?

Instead of reporting a well behaved dog who was minding it's own business and playing with a stick. Why not report the yappy cokershitpoos that have no recall or training. The ones who jump up or nip ankles while their owners stand by laughing that they're just playing.

They have to be registered and muzzled now which clearly this pupper wasn't as he's holding his stick. To be honest it's ridiculous that the XL has to jump through hoops when similar dogs of a size don't.

But it's not a banned breed 🙄

That dog, if assessed, would match the 'type' of a Bully XL - as would other dogs, such as some Labradors. The difference is that Labradors are a breed that's recognised by the UK Kennel Club and would be exempted from the Bully XL legislation. The Cane Corso isn't a recognised breed in the UK so, if it matches the type for a Bully XL, it can be seized, assessed, and put down.

All owners of Cane Corsos should apply for exemptions, get insurance, chipped, neutered and muzzle in public to avoid that happening.

They won't, of course, because they're convinced that their dogs aren't covered by the ban. They are due to measurements and appearance.

Personally, i think they and a lot of other breeds should have been banned at the same time as the Bully XL to avoid their numbers exploding as people attempt to work around the ban on killer dogs.

There is no such thing as a lock style jaw.

And what's the practical difference between a dog that physically locks its jaw as opposed to a dog that bites and won't release unless unconscious or dead?

All owners of Cane Corsos should apply for exemptions, get insurance, chipped, neutered and muzzle in public to avoid that happening.

No, they shouldn't. They only need to do that if their particular dog fits the criteria for an XL, and many don't (at present, anyway).

You can't exempt a dog that doesn't fit the criteria

Locks it with what? A lock requires a ratchet mechanism. There is no such thing. No dog is capable of "locking" its jaw.

Any dog with sufficient size/strength can bite and not release until the victim is unconscious or dead. It's style of jaw is irrelevant.

I didn't say they could lock their jaws. I'm asking what the practical difference is between a dog that could lock its jaws and a dog, such as a pitbull, that will bite and hold until the dog is unconscious or dead.

The mechanism is completely irrelevant, if the outcome is exactly the same.

This.
The dog "started looking at" your son is paranoid nonsense.