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Kate's photo appears "manipulated"?

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Tulipsandpansies123 · 10/03/2024 22:13

Have just seen news saying that associated press have withdrawn photo as it appears "manipulated". V strange

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35965a · 11/03/2024 09:23

People are arguing about it all but the fact remains, they released this photo. Why? Who knows because it’s so obviously edited to the point of potentially being fake. That’s on William and his staff, they put it out there. They’re feeding these conspiracy theories. The question is what is in it for them? Surely they didn’t do it on purpose? But maybe they did.

Calliopespa · 11/03/2024 09:25

I suspect she probably isn’t looking great and any sleight of hand around the photo is to do with that.

Not sure why they would worry about her not looking perfect though - it’s not as if the vultures descend to dissect every glimpse of her . 🙄

oiltrader · 11/03/2024 09:28

CormorantStrikesBack · 11/03/2024 09:20

Do you think he threw her in the dog water bowl? 🤔🙈🤣

seriously though I do not think they’ve had a fight at all. She’s been unwell and is recovering. Due to the kill notice I guess the issue with the photo is more than a bit of photoshop. So yeah I do wonder if it was Pippa or Carol in the original photo, how the press have figured that out though god knows.

I think Kate has had enough, what with all the infidelity reports and the "princeofpegging" stuff. William is reported to be an aggressive bully

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 11/03/2024 09:29

Well if that’s the case we will find out in due course. Sometimes being seriously unwell makes you reevaluate. Maybe she is. Equally maybe she’s just recovering and doesn’t like the way she looks currently.

Moonshine5 · 11/03/2024 09:30

It's not literally about the touch ups, the outlets expect that on photos. Reading between the lines it appears that the authenticity is at question - ie. When was it taken etc.

AmaryllisChorus · 11/03/2024 09:30

RemarkablyBrightCreature · 10/03/2024 22:17

Dear god, there are so many other things going on in the world - why is everyone so invested in this shit?!? 😩

Absolutely! DH started Ooh-ahing about it and I thought I don't give a monkeys. All press photos are touched up. This is a non story.

Startingagainandagain · 11/03/2024 09:30

''@lala567

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All I can say is that the Palace needs to have a word with their PR team...

Complete disaster. It is mind-blowing that their comms let this picture go out

Think about it. It's a distraction.''

It does not distract from anything...it has made things worse for them. Epic fail.

Calliopespa · 11/03/2024 09:31

JPGR · 11/03/2024 09:23

That is a tassel on the boot.

It’s definitely something to do with all their limbs and digits having been swapped about. Are the children even in school? Or are they body doubles? 🤫🤔Now we’re onto something…

AmaryllisChorus · 11/03/2024 09:31

AdamRyan · 10/03/2024 22:19

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/kate-middleton-photo-given-kill-32320496

It says what the "manipulation" is in here. Looks like bad use of photoshop and media hysteria rather than anything sinister

Bad photoshop + media hysteria sounds right. What a surprise.

EasternStandard · 11/03/2024 09:32

What’s the level of edit on photos do agencies accept?

Viviennemary · 11/03/2024 09:33

I suspected something was amiss as soon as I saw it.

Hadjab · 11/03/2024 09:33

As a graphic designer of over 30 years, my only take on all of this is why would you let such a horribly edited photo out into the wild? We all know that most 'celebrity' (and product) photos are retouched - fair enough, it it what it is, and it pays my mortgage, but that picture looks like they let one of the kids edit it.

Lampslights · 11/03/2024 09:35

oiltrader · 11/03/2024 09:28

I think Kate has had enough, what with all the infidelity reports and the "princeofpegging" stuff. William is reported to be an aggressive bully

wtf, what an awful fhing to write, you can’t seriously beleive that stuff. About the pegging or think he’s aggressive as he shoved his brother. Bloody hell im embarassed for you.

its very obvious Kate has been significantly ill. And from the pap shot a week ago doesn’t look well at the moment, which is completely normal. So they’ve taken this ridiculous step of heavily manipulating an image to make her look in full health.

oiltrader · 11/03/2024 09:38

Lampslights · 11/03/2024 09:35

wtf, what an awful fhing to write, you can’t seriously beleive that stuff. About the pegging or think he’s aggressive as he shoved his brother. Bloody hell im embarassed for you.

its very obvious Kate has been significantly ill. And from the pap shot a week ago doesn’t look well at the moment, which is completely normal. So they’ve taken this ridiculous step of heavily manipulating an image to make her look in full health.

Its well known to people in the city who have connections. he is a horrible little man x

Lampslights · 11/03/2024 09:39

EasternStandard · 11/03/2024 09:32

What’s the level of edit on photos do agencies accept?

They will accept things like colour enhancement, noise reduction, softening etc, but if it moves into a level of manipulation that it is no longer an honest representation they won’t use it, as they wish the public to trust their images are not misleading.

due to the extreme sensitivity here it will need to be very, very heavy manipulation for them to issue an immediate kill notice. So their software has detected something significant they can’t ignore. They won’t say though.

the only way it will come out is if someone has access the the image in the state it was released, and has the software and can say. But even then for fear of legal action and due to the Implications anyone smart or reliable won’t be willing to go there.

Emotionalsupportviper · 11/03/2024 09:41

Lampslights · 11/03/2024 09:19

I commented on the other thread, apparently the agencies use software which detects digital manipulation, and can even undo it, can say what has been manipulated and how.

photos are always manipulated these days, and the agencies permit a certain amount. Ie noise reduction, softening, colour enhancement, but if they deem the image manipulated to such a level it is no longer honest representation they will not use it, as the public needs to have faith the images are honest.

they have run this through their software and issued an immediate kill notice, which is a redaction. Which tells us this image is heavily altered and to such an extent the agencies effectively deem it fake.

they won’t say though how and to what extent, because of the sensitivity. The act of redaction though speaks loudly.

its very bad for the family.

this photo was aapparently taken by William a week ago, around the same time as the pap shot of her in the car with her mum. Where although long distance you could see she was puffy faced. This image she’s in full health and even wearing skin tight skinny jeans after abdominal surgery, and has sat through a hair dressing and make up session.

my take would be her face has been super imposed but I don’t know. And the agencies won’t say.

suspect she just doesn’t look great right now. She will be fine again, and they issued this to quell the conspiracy stuff, and have made a really big mistake in doing so.

for all the agencies to kill it. Says it is significant manipulation and not just a bit of clearing up and fundamentally the same image as the original/

I commented on the other thread, apparently the agencies use software which detects digital manipulation, and can even undo it, can say what has been manipulated and how.

KP would surely be aware of this though - they would know exactly how sophisticated the technology is (or they should). Why would they risk this happening?

BrielyNice · 11/03/2024 09:41

Not caught up work while thread, but is the car photo her sister Pippa???

BrielyNice · 11/03/2024 09:42

Typo with not work

BrielyNice · 11/03/2024 09:42

I give up - not caught up with whole thread gah!

CapybaraBara · 11/03/2024 09:43

Go to the TikTok account "Allyn Aston" and watch the most recent upload! The creator has made a remarkable claim that the photo was most likely taken in November 2023 during a visit to a baby bank with Charlotte and George. The photos of that visit were released in December but the actual visit took place earlier.

  1. Kate was wearing that identical outfit of a turtleneck sweater, skinny jeans and boots. The only difference is that her sweater was white but the size of the cowl, length and ribbing looks identical. The Tiktoker suggests they simply Photoshopped the sweater in the photo to make it dark blue. (This would explain why her head looks like it's almost floating a blob of black shadow when the rest of the image is taken in bright daylight).

  2. Charlotte is wearing the same red sweater with the unique ribbed neckline, same tights and boots. In the Mothers Day photo she just had a matching red cardigan on top. Interestingly, her boots appear almost brand new in the picture from yesterday. Anyone with kids knows that shoes scuff faster than anything so the same pair would not look pristine in March 2024 if she was wearing them in November 2023. (Though giving them the benefit of the doubt that since they're Royal, they might get new boots every month).

  3. George is also wearing a checkered shirt under a blue jumper just like in the Mothers Day photo. She suspects they photoshopped the white collar to make it blue and blend it in with the jumper so it's not immediately noticeable.

If all that is true then that would be a pretty dire deception and definitely warrant the image being pulled from media outlets. Perhaps this discovery was made by someone with access to the baby bank PR images (also available on various blogs), combined with AI image manipulation detectors.

Novella4 · 11/03/2024 09:43

Did no British media outlets question the photo ?

Did they only react once international agencies rightly questioned it ?

TitusMoan · 11/03/2024 09:44

oiltrader · 11/03/2024 09:38

Its well known to people in the city who have connections. he is a horrible little man x

No it isn’t!

Why do you keep finishing your unpleasant comments with a kiss?

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 11/03/2024 09:45

Even if it is, I honestly couldn’t give a hoot.

itsnotabouthepasta · 11/03/2024 09:46

At the most generous assumption you could argue that it used the Google (?) phone technology - the one where it takes the best shot of each person and brings them in

At worst, it looks like it's been AI generated - and that's where the manipulation is bad because then it leads to all sorts of further questions.

Personally, I have no interest in knowing what was wrong with Catherine. She's been seriously ill and needs time to recuperate. She deserves her privacy.

But if the Palace are going to start submitting fake images to try and quell conspiracy theories then they've gone about it absolutely the wrong way. It raises far more questions than it answers.

romatheroamer · 11/03/2024 09:47

I'm not expecting a prize for guessing the topic on 5live before I even touched the radio!
All the chat about photo fixing made me think of houses which usually look much better in the agent's photos than when viewing.