Kate's photo appears "manipulated"?

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Have just seen news saying that associated press have withdrawn photo as it appears "manipulated". V strange

Where's the picture?

Nice.

That's where her fringe ends FFS

😂😂 I see 1/3 crossing their fingers.

Plus it's never ok to lie.

It’s that thing where two things can be simultaneously true…

does she deserve time and privacy to get better? (Yes)
do the public have a right to trust that published images are true and not significantly altered? (Also yes)

I just think it’s a real shame that they are trapped in this “we must be perfect” bubble, when life is not perfect for anyone. It is driven by the press though who love a less than perfect image (interesting how often they use that brown top/sweat patch photo of Meghan in articles about them).

she should have just put up a message and a picture of some daffodils imo

It’s obviously very serious. The palace felt the need to release a photo but the photo they released is a heavily doctored one. Clearly something is wrong.

I couldn't care less if the photo has been doctored, if it keeps the weirdos, conspiracy theorists and nasty nosy gossips at bay.

But it hasn't kept any of that at bay. It's made it worse. Which was entirely predictable. I don't understand why they released anything - sticking to their "mind your own business, she'll be back after Easter" line would have been completely reasonable.

For the most crazy conspiracy theorists, no photo would ever satisfy them. Some of the stuff on Twitter is truly bonkers. There's no point trying to keep that at bay.
But most reasonable people could accept a position of saying nothing, even if their nosiness didn't really like it. So sticking with that would be the best bet to keep things at bay, because adding an edited photo only adds to the conversation around the whole situation.

That would be related to the major abdominal surgery and 12 week recovery time.

All I can say is that the Palace needs to have a word with their PR team...

Complete disaster. It is mind-blowing that their comms let this picture go out.

Anyway, well done of the big news/picture agencies for making a stand. They have policies not to disseminate images that have been altered and that rightly includes any content coming from the royal family.

It is likely that they used an old picture of the family, pretty obvious as Kate looks nothing like her most recent paparazzi image, which would have been fine but it is very strange that they felt the need to release one where they used such bad photoshopping.

Whatever is going on they are really not put an end to speculations with this.

Meghan must be smiling...

@CapybaraBara actually this way of thinking really upsets me

" They refused to provide any detail, aside from stating it wasn't cancer in which case the worst case scenario has been ruled out anyway "

Why is cancer seen as the only really serious diagnosis?.

This misunderstanding is why when I was diagnosed with a very life limiting diagnosis I got far less sympathy than my friend in the same group who had had "pre cancerous changes" and needed a minor op with local anaesthetic (I had had that same procedure a few years previously and didn't even think to mention it!)

It’s that thing where two things can be simultaneously true…

does she deserve time and privacy to get better? (Yes)
do the public have a right to trust that published images are true and not significantly altered? (Also yes)

Yes I agree with this when it comes to the RF. They shouldn't have released anything, no one should be complaining about a lack of info or pictures.
But equally they shouldn't release something if it's substantially false - which I don't know if this is, some photoshopping doesn't mean it's not still broadly correct of course.

I think releasing this photo was needless. My view is that Kate isn't understandably at her physical best post surgery so they pieced the photo together but quite badly.

It does dispel the wilder rumours though as if something more sinister has happened the royal family surely wouldn't release a photo pretending all was ok, knowing that could be proved to be a lie further down the line.

I think this is William’s camp trying to take back the narrative after Carole and Kate did that pap “stroll” earlier in the week. I think the Wales are in a power struggle.

Exactly this.

There are clearly some photoshop errors in there (Charlotte's sleeve, Louis sleeve and the tiles) but those could easily just have been to remove stuff they didn't want in there like dirt on the cuff, something messy on the floor, whatever. No idea why they are so badly done though.

Some of the other theories are bizarre though. Louis has the right number of fingers and there's nothing wrong with Charlotte's boot or skirt for example.

In previous years they have released Mother's Day photos so if they didn't do one this year the press and conspiracy theorists would pick up on it. So they released one.

Usually their family photos were taken several months before they are published but when issuing this one the Palace said it was taken last week and implying therefore it's proof Kate is recovering well.

The recent surgery and lack of sightings or health updates plus Charles being sick at the same time means the picture is much more newsworthy than one of their usual family photos. It's generating a headline rather than being a fluff piece. The picture agencies believe it has been manipulated to misrepresent how Kate is recovering and so they have said to kill it. They don't want to help the Palace to pull the wool over the public's eyes and mislead us.

Startingagainandagain

*All I can say is that the Palace needs to have a word with their PR team...

Complete disaster. It is mind-blowing that their comms let this picture go out*

Think about it. It's a distraction.

Its her personal, private medical information. She wishes to keep it private and recover privately.

Quite rightly, nobody apart from her, her medical team and whoever else she chooses to tell has a right to know anything about it.

For some reason, a lot of the media and public just cannot understand or accept this.

And, social media conspiracy theorists are the absolute worst thing to happen in recent times. Adding 2 and 2 together, getting 48, and then posting it as a fact.

This is where mad conspiracy theories get you. (And this normally much more sensible site hasn't been immune.) She's ill. She hasn't been murdered in the Tower and they're busy working on her robot duplicate or whatever it is people are trying to insinuate.

I commented on the other thread, apparently the agencies use software which detects digital manipulation, and can even undo it, can say what has been manipulated and how.

photos are always manipulated these days, and the agencies permit a certain amount. Ie noise reduction, softening, colour enhancement, but if they deem the image manipulated to such a level it is no longer honest representation they will not use it, as the public needs to have faith the images are honest.

they have run this through their software and issued an immediate kill notice, which is a redaction. Which tells us this image is heavily altered and to such an extent the agencies effectively deem it fake.

they won’t say though how and to what extent, because of the sensitivity. The act of redaction though speaks loudly.

its very bad for the family.

this photo was aapparently taken by William a week ago, around the same time as the pap shot of her in the car with her mum. Where although long distance you could see she was puffy faced. This image she’s in full health and even wearing skin tight skinny jeans after abdominal surgery, and has sat through a hair dressing and make up session.

my take would be her face has been super imposed but I don’t know. And the agencies won’t say.

suspect she just doesn’t look great right now. She will be fine again, and they issued this to quell the conspiracy stuff, and have made a really big mistake in doing so.

for all the agencies to kill it. Says it is significant manipulation and not just a bit of clearing up and fundamentally the same image as the original/

@Livingtothefull
Exactly

Also weren’t we told that ‘William took the photo this week ‘

So the impression given is it’s your average family snap and it’s very recent .
A photo which international news agencies will not use due to the degree of manipulation of the image …

Stop blaming the public . No one asked for the ‘William took the photo’ narrative .
That’s on them .

Do you think he threw her in the dog water bowl? 🤔🙈🤣

seriously though I do not think they’ve had a fight at all. She’s been unwell and is recovering. Due to the kill notice I guess the issue with the photo is more than a bit of photoshop. So yeah I do wonder if it was Pippa or Carol in the original photo, how the press have figured that out though god knows.

IF W and K are having marriage problems I can see from RF point of view that they would do everything possible to protect W's reputation and image given that he is likely to be king sooner rather than later. If it comes out over the next year or so that he's a complete shit then that could be the end of the monarchy.

Or K could actually really be recovering from surgery 🤷🏻‍♀️

Several issues…

1. This is a news pic and not in the same category as a celeb pr pic so subject to higher standards of truth and originality.
2. The photo was not just illustrating the story but was THE story ie man takes happy pic of wife and family after wife recovered/reappeared.
3. These agencies are international so less involved in an ongoing relationship between the royals as British press.
4. Nevertheless they are still important clients so I suspect these agencies would have tried to clarify /asked to see the originals to make sure these were not inadvertent errors due to amateur photographer, poor processing, sizing artefacts etc.
5. William is, as photographer, reporting on himself as part of the story. This is not a good idea. He is neither an impartial source nor a professional photographer which undermines the story.
6. They have been guilty of picture manipulating their family pics previously and presumably the agencies are just fed up. They might have got no good answers from William yesterday. Their editor is probably embarrassed he didn’t spot it earlier in the day.
7. William should do it properly. Get a professional photographer from one of the respected news agencies. You’ll get a good pic. No need for dishonest manipulation, no one will question the process and you won’t come out looking foolish and dishonest.

That is a tassel on the boot.