Thread 39 Sunak - Government by Gaslight

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previous thread

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5016708-thread-38-sunak-soooo-square-one-is-an-option-then?page=40&reply=133647875

There is also the oil and our fuel insecurity

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/venezuela-crisis

Forget the environment!

This is a surprising intervention

Three Tory ex-home secretaries warn against politicising anti-extremism | Michael Gove | The Guardian

Leading counter-terror and extremism experts, including three former Conservative home secretaries, have warned senior politicians against using extremism to score political points, as the communities secretary, Michael Gove, prepares to announce his controversial new anti-extremism plan.

Priti Patel, Sajid Javid and Amber Rudd are among a dozen signatories to a joint statement warning about the risks of politicising anti-extremism, just days before the communities secretary unveils his proposals.

Others who signed the statement include Brendan Cox, the widower of the MP Jo Cox and co-founder of Survivors Against Terror, Neil Basu, the former head of counter-terrorism policing, and Richard Dannatt, the former chief of the general staff.

It brings strange bedfellows together

It brings strange bedfellows together

Not half. I never thought I’d see Brendan Cox and Priti Patel agree on anything.

It really does. Respect to them all for speaking out.

Yes, but strangely it didn't work 😂

I wouldn't trust any of those 3, Patel & Javid came out with horrible policies,
Patel allowed to resign for giving away state secrets.

Are any of them even standing again ? Rudd left the tory party.

If the Cons see electoral advantage in trying to embarrass the Labour party, they'll do it, no matter the truth of the situation.

True that none of them are nice, but even horrible people can do the right thing sometimes? Or am I getting soft in my old age?

They are all panicking because Gove has created a definition that another government can easily use against the more odd elements of the Conservative Party.

They are so stupid these people; to our structures into place that are effectively pretty anti democratic and then suddenly realise that's not too good for you when you in opposition for a decade. This is exactly the reason previous governments didn't do this.

Good luck to the Conservatives. They seem committed to destroying themselves.

Also cat pic as this seems to be required.

boots sorry for your loss & tiddles wishing you a speedy recovery 💐

This is evil

https://x.com/edwinhayward/status/1766939481133724074?s=20

We got surprisingly quickly to "putting children away in shipping containers".

The path the Tories are on isn't a slippery slope. It's a vertical cliff.

You are. They are worried for themselves.

Thanks for new thread.

Thanks for the condolences.
Wishing you a speedy recovery @MrTiddlesTheCat.

If they expand their definition of Extremism to thinking stuff, it makes it much easier to make British citizens stateless.

It's fucking terrifying.

The way i view it is that when in office, these people didn't do the right thing... why would they suddenly change?

Rudd perhaps being the exception, she wasn't really in the HO for long but she also backed Austerity, which imho is at the root cause of so many issues we now face.

I just see any Tory as a self serving xxxx.... look at t.May? has pocketed millions on the after dinner speech circuit..... earning more than the xxxx in chief, Bojo... am i now an "extremist"?

Rumours are that 30p Flee is joining Reform today

It's probably quicker to see who aren't on the extremist list.

It's all about the thought crime, isn't it?

30p Lee has defected to Reform UK and becomes their first MP.

Isn’t it just, I’m surprised we haven’t all been rounded up.
agree it is terrifying.

Given Anderson suggested in November that he'd been offered a lot of cash to move to Reform I'd be interested to know if any money has changed hands.

wonder how much reform paid him.

Third party in six years

Man of conviction 😉