Angela Rayner - political hypocrite, yes or no?

[Agnes12]

Whatever the ins and outs, Angela says she is “proud” to have bought her council house 20 years ago under RTB. Angela has been a long-term Labour supporter and has come up through the Labour/Trade Union movement. I find it quite surprising that she has then bought a state owned asset, later sold at a profit.

I have never agreed with RTB but recognise for if you are given that opportunity you are probably going to take it. However for someone who purports to be a socialist isn’t this a tad hypocritical? Or doesn’t it matter and she should be allowed to take advantage of the scheme as she qualified?

Most Labour supporters I know also send their kids to private schools "against their principles". In my experience many people support socialist policies but when those policies become inconvenient in their own lives they actually do the opposite.

It's been 20 years. People move house. It's a non story (apart from in the DM).

When she bought her house she was working as a care assistant. I doubt she knew where she would end up 20 years later, she didn't want to be a politician and kind of got into it accidentally.

Listen to this podcast and you will hear a bit more about her background and how she entered politics. https://uk-podcasts.co.uk/podcast/leading/50-angela-rayner-from-zero-gcses-to-britain-s-most

Of course the house is now worth more, that's the UK property market for you. Loads of people made money from RTB.

YABU. And slightly classist/misogynist. Your post has echoes of "she should know her place"

Exactly as @Saladpops says, don't you know the first part of socialist/communist leadership to 'the people' is "do as I tell you not what I do"?

I take your point. I didn’t know what she was doing 20 years ago. I’ll have a listen to the podcast.

She wasn't an MP or even a candidate, what she did was legal and tbh, 20 years ago, the real damage of RTB wasn't as widely known about.

Is Sunak a Hypocrite because he uses a Helicopter to get around on & pays just 23% tax on earnings of £2.5m?

What do you think is more damaging?

You should, it changed my view of her. She is pretty amazing considering her start in life, and I'm really pleased we have someone with that life experience in a powerful position in our politics.

It’s a chat forum. I was just interested in what other people think.

So you are suggesting that Labour supporters should penalise their childrens education for their principles because they believe - contrary to the priciples of the government in power - in a decent state education for everyone and good investment in public services, whilst those in power and with money send their own children to public schools whilst demanding cuts in taxes etc that actually defund state education?

Labour supporters really should know their place - fancy expecting an education for their children when they could be up chimneys sweeping.

Is this the labour voters who are voting for no private education for anyone or the ones who think it's only for the wealthy, not those who work 2+ jobs to afford?

No. The point is that they disagree with the entire principle of private schools and loved to berate people who sent their kids there. Then had their own kids and did the same thing. That's just been my experience.

Not true for me
I am a staunch Labour supporter and I have sent my kids to the nearest local state school throughout their education not withstanding the RI rating although I could have afforded private. I also volunteered as a governor on top of my full time job.

I absolutely love Angela Rayner and I can't wait to see what she can achieve when Labour are in power

What Angela Rayner did with right to buy is social mobility in action. It's true that the RTB policy decimated social housing which is a bad thing but its original intent was to enable people who would otherwise never have a shot at property ownership to get a house. Otherwise property ownership and inheritance is a major mechanism of entrenched inequality. I am not so sure it was a bad policy as originally envisaged the issue was not replacing the social housing stock.

Their state education has done my DC no harm at all BTW. The eldest got great GCSEs and I fully anticipate she will go to an RG University.

You obviously move in different circles.... & who in Labs front bench has said abolish private schools?

The Lab supporters i know do not send their kids to Private, they simply cannot afford it.

I think with those in Westminster, the issue is different, i mean, you wouldn't really expect Starmers kids to catch the school bus to the local comp, i certainly wouldn't expect Sunaks kids to either.

MPs are now having bodyguards.

that's how RTB works though bought at a reduced rate because of her tenancy then its her house blah blah good for Angela.

Op it must blow your mind when you see the likes of Emma Thompson supporting Labour.!

Is that really true?? I suggest probably "some" would be a better word than "most" - or maybe you know a particularly small subset of Labour supporters!

yes some not most there is parents that don't send their kids to private school.

Works for me too.

I think it’s a total non-story.

I am not keen on her personally but I think she has a fantastic story and proves that with a very underprivileged background you can make it (almost) to the very top. Good for her.

Most is accurate for me of the ones who I know are Labour supporters because they talk about it A LOT. I don't know the political affiliations of most people I know. I'm just saying that the ones that I do know are Labour supporters (because they talk about it a lot) are also the ones that do the opposite of what they say.

I don't talk about politics with most of my friends. I don't support any political party (think they're all awful). I'm just sharing an observation that I've made about the Labour supporters I know.