Angela Rayner - political hypocrite, yes or no?

[Agnes12]

Whatever the ins and outs, Angela says she is “proud” to have bought her council house 20 years ago under RTB. Angela has been a long-term Labour supporter and has come up through the Labour/Trade Union movement. I find it quite surprising that she has then bought a state owned asset, later sold at a profit.

I have never agreed with RTB but recognise for if you are given that opportunity you are probably going to take it. However for someone who purports to be a socialist isn’t this a tad hypocritical? Or doesn’t it matter and she should be allowed to take advantage of the scheme as she qualified?

I'm not pro right to buy but the problem isn't just that, it's that no new social housing has been built. Tenants aren't to blame for that. The government has deliberately defunded it and it's brilliant for them that people buying their houses get the blame.

MPs like cash.

Grasp that fact and their actions make more sense.

They'll say what needs to be said to appear their donors.
They'll back whatever protects their cash flow, and if it changes, they'll say they never backed that thing and now they stand against it. Most of the people running sections of society have little to no experience in that sector.. minister for education, never taught a day in their life. Minister for health, has zero medical training.

I'd rather sack the lot of them, completely.do away with them all and start again.
Have teachers run education.
Doctors run health.
Scientists run science.
Business experts run international trade.

No one should be in charge of anything if they've no experience in that field.

& people can piss off slagging the CS, DH and other members of my family are CS and they are bloody smart, work bloody hard and care about their work and the people it's supposed to benefit.

(That's not to say I'm saying people can't criticise the CS as a whole I just think the nasty personal shit is out of line.)

I love Angela Raynor!

Despite the fact that I can't abide the woman, and that I think RTB was an utterly insane idea, I don't see that she's done anything wrong here.

Just the DM trying to throw dirt at Labour before the Tories lose the coming up General Election (entirely their own fault).

Who is that Tory bloke who bought up about 30 council houses in Westminster by offering a small bung to the tenants and persuading them to move on? What an entrepreneur! What a portfolio! 30 ex council houses in Central London. Well done. As for Angela Rayner? Well she's Labour isn't she? She shouldn't own anything. She should live in a tent and dress in rags. Down with her.

@Saladpops "Most Labour supporters I know also send their kids to private schools "against their principles". In my experience many people support socialist policies but when those policies become inconvenient in their own lives they actually do the opposite."

I'm assuming you don't know many Labour supporters?

As someone who cannot find a single positive to say about Labour or any of the sorry bunch, I also say this is a total non story.

People move houses.

She’s like the wind goes in any direction to appease as many as possible

So Angela can be in charge of the national strategy to get people put of poverty then. Great 👍

She’s like the wind goes in any direction to appease as many as possible

@rwalker Do you have an example of this pls?

People who exercised their right to buy are not the issue. I don’t believe there’s a single person, despite their lofty principles, who would turn down the chance to buy the home they’ve rented for years at a substantial discount. It was a way onto the housing ladder for people who had absolutely no chance.

The money should have been spent on replacement housing stock. The money people paid for one house should have built two new ones. The fact the corrupt government squandered that money isn’t the fault of Angela Rayner or her fellow buyers. The fact that property prices increased so much wasn’t their fault either. Were they supposed to know their place and stay in that house forever?

I don't have an issue with her buying her RTB property. I do have a problem with her lying about where she lived though when registering to vote.

Ha ha She'd have joined the Tories if she had wanted political success.

Bit like your man Lee Anderson.

Right To Buy is one of the most illogical and harmful policies I can think of.

What has replaced the swathes of council housing sold off? A million buy to let landlords, insanely high private rent and a great deal of tax money going into paying off their private mortgages in Housing Benefit. Ludicrous and shameful and has right royally screwed over the generations who came after RTB.

Perfectly legal to be on the electoral register at two addresses (or to choose one of two addresses you spend time at).

This is just desperate digging by the Mail. They covered this a couple of years ago I think and nothing came of it, so they are trying again.

https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/voting-and-elections/who-can-vote/other-registration-options/voting-and-second-homes

Selling them wasn’t the problem the majority had long term tenants so wouldn’t off freed housing stock up

the scandal is it should be sell one build one and similar to affordable homes scheme when you sell it in you pass on this discount or pay it back

@rwalker "She’s like the wind goes in any direction to appease as many as possible"

Examples, please?

I doubt they berate people who send their kids there while sending their own. They may bemoan a system which means it’s the best education for their children right now, and work to change that. That doesn’t mean they can’t use it themselves now. Though having worked in two independent schools I don’t think I would bother…

All because Angela Rayner bought one house? Wow.
The policy is damaging, yes, but in terms of personal damage to the country, Sunak is depriving the treasury of a whole lot more.

To state schools. They aim to improve state education - as the last Labour government did (I’ve worked in education from 1988 to now, so I have a real feel for how it was both before an after that government). The security issues will be dealt with when they arise. Many politicians children go to state schools now in any case.

I think ideals and practicalities are different.

As an individual you can believe that all childcare should be subsidised, doesn’t mean that you will get it.
You can believe that all schools should be free and properly invested into but if reality is not the case then decide to send your children private than to a crap school.
You can believe that housing should be affordable and more council housing should be available but if it isn’t you might have to use what policies are available even if you don’t think they are right.

Just because you believe in something doesn’t mean you don’t have to survive in the world the way it is.

Tories sell off the countries assets. It’s what they do. And don’t come at me about gold. Not the same thing as water, power, rail, housing, mail etc etc.