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Aibu to think he should go and order me a coffee on first date?

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Coffeedate · 13/02/2024 20:23

I've found this a bit rude. I've been on a couple of coffee dates lately (first dates) where the guy has already been at the coffee shop when I arrive and is sitting with his coffee. When I arrive , they greet me , but don't offer to go and order me a coffee so they just let me go up and order it and pay for it myself.
Call me old fashioned but this bothers me and I just find it rude. Would this annoy anyone else or is it just me?

OP posts:
Newsenmum · 13/02/2024 21:45

I agree that whoever is there first should offer as it’s a nice thing to do. So yeah bit lazy !

Coffeedate · 13/02/2024 21:47

@SleepingStandingUp oh right, apologies. I thought you just went for coffee and cake and that was it. He sounds lovely.

OP posts:
Dacadactyl · 13/02/2024 21:48

Getthethrowonthesofa · 13/02/2024 21:40

It isn’t even logical, the argument is women take risks so should ger free stuff. What a load of nonsense.

dont know why they don’t just own it, im a tight wad, im skint, whatever, and I want to be paid for. And thats a key criteria for me, men who will pay for me so i dont need to put my hand in my pocket.

It's not that I'm tight, or skint or dont want to put my hand in my pocket or whatever.

Dating is to find someone you want to marry, in my mind. If you want to be a SAHM or work PT or anything like that, you need a man who is willing to share his money. That's what it's about, to me anyway.

Now, that's not to say that a man who insists on a 50/50 split will never share his money when youre on mat leave, nor is it to say that a man who buys a coffee will definitely share his money.

However, I do feel it is a reasonable first indicator of generosity. I wouldn't want a man who was out dating so often that he was spending a lot on dating all and sundry
To me, that just indicates he's not serious, nor the type to settle down.

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Getthethrowonthesofa · 13/02/2024 21:48

Newsenmum · 13/02/2024 21:45

I agree that whoever is there first should offer as it’s a nice thing to do. So yeah bit lazy !

Where did this rule come from? Do you implement it if it’s friends or families? I’ve never heard of such a rule.

baileybrosbuildingandloan · 13/02/2024 21:49

Coffeedate · 13/02/2024 20:34

@JacksonLambsEatIvy I might pay if I asked him out but generally I just think it's a gentlemanly thing to do for the man to at least offer to get the coffee. It's a £3 coffee. And the fact that they greet me and then sit back down again, it just doesn't sit well with me.

Gentlemanly?
What decade are you in?
You have different outlooks to these guys therefore you are not compatible.
You find a man that you like and leave them to women living wholly in 2024. Everyone then happy.

Getthethrowonthesofa · 13/02/2024 21:49

Dacadactyl · 13/02/2024 21:48

It's not that I'm tight, or skint or dont want to put my hand in my pocket or whatever.

Dating is to find someone you want to marry, in my mind. If you want to be a SAHM or work PT or anything like that, you need a man who is willing to share his money. That's what it's about, to me anyway.

Now, that's not to say that a man who insists on a 50/50 split will never share his money when youre on mat leave, nor is it to say that a man who buys a coffee will definitely share his money.

However, I do feel it is a reasonable first indicator of generosity. I wouldn't want a man who was out dating so often that he was spending a lot on dating all and sundry
To me, that just indicates he's not serious, nor the type to settle down.

So you meet men thinking if they will pay for you to stay home or work part time? Seriously?

SoupDragon · 13/02/2024 21:49

Coffeedate · 13/02/2024 21:43

@ohdearwhatcan I'm exactly the same, I like a bit of chivalry especially for the first date. It doesn't leave a good impression if he can't even offer me a coffee. I probably would have said it's ok I will get my own , it's the fact he didn't offer

Still going to claim it's nothing about gender? 😂😂

Naptrappedmummy · 13/02/2024 21:49

Meowandthen · 13/02/2024 21:28

You seem very confused. And angry. And to have dated a lot of arseholes.

The post wasn’t about permanently splitting costs but one coffee on a first date.

Heaven knows why women have children with dreadful men all the time but let’s hope most people here go on more than one date before making such decisions.

Angry 😂

I stand by what I said!

Naptrappedmummy · 13/02/2024 21:50

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/02/2024 21:31

Yuck. I'm not a ''prize'' to be ''won''.

Clearly.

Terfosaurus · 13/02/2024 21:51

Some of my experiences of dating.

  1. He turned up in a dirty t-shirt, unwashed hair. Told me to grab a table while he went to the bar. Sat down, asked for the exact cost of my coke. I said "oh it would be easier if I grab the next one". No he didn't want that. He also ordered himself a meal and didn't even mention it until it arrived. Very odd.
I didn't see him again, not because he didn't pay though. Just all of it.
  1. He insisted on paying. Then got shitty when I wouldn't take him back to my house. Like I owed him for the meal. Didn't see him again. Vile man.
  1. Told me before the date he wanted to split the bill, as he was a bit fed up with paying for a date and then never hearing from them again. Finr with me. We only went to the chippy then sat in the park. I went to the cash machine as we got near the shop. He then said he was more than happy to pay. He just wanted to see if I was prepared to. We were together for a few years.

The did they/didn't they pay wasn't the deciding factor in any of those outcomes. If guy 1 had paid I still wouldn't have seen him again. He was gross.
Guy 2 was a fucking creep, albeit one who would pay.
Guy 3 was lovely. Made me feel like an equal, but also that he appreciated I was a single mum with less income than him.

Soontobe60 · 13/02/2024 21:52

Coffeedate · 13/02/2024 20:34

@JacksonLambsEatIvy I might pay if I asked him out but generally I just think it's a gentlemanly thing to do for the man to at least offer to get the coffee. It's a £3 coffee. And the fact that they greet me and then sit back down again, it just doesn't sit well with me.

I’m embarrassed for you! We don’t live in the 1950s, we can get our own coffees and even pay for them ourselves!

EmmaEmerald · 13/02/2024 21:53

OP Are these internet dates?

I have never done that but from what I can gather, it's a very different experience than being asked out IRL. IRL, I can see the argument the person doing the asking pays for coffee or whatever. Online, not so much.

You're just meeting up to see if you like each other. It's a lot different than someone you know asking you out, IMHO.

Also, in this weather, meeting outside? I'd want to go in and get a drink myself and I think that sounds fine.

also, he has to sit back down or you'll lose your table? Maybe?

Dacadactyl · 13/02/2024 21:55

Getthethrowonthesofa · 13/02/2024 21:49

So you meet men thinking if they will pay for you to stay home or work part time? Seriously?

No because I don't meet men for dating purposes. I got married at 25 to the man I met when I was 20. I'm 38 now.

But, if I was dating now and thinking I'd like to have kids, I would certainly be looking at his attitude to money.

Londonscallingme · 13/02/2024 21:56

Coffeedate · 13/02/2024 20:34

@JacksonLambsEatIvy I might pay if I asked him out but generally I just think it's a gentlemanly thing to do for the man to at least offer to get the coffee. It's a £3 coffee. And the fact that they greet me and then sit back down again, it just doesn't sit well with me.

You lost me at ‘gentlemenly’. I’m all for being polite, regardless of gender and if I’d asked someone out I’d buy them a coffee. However, relating this to whether you’ve got a vagina or a penis totally debases your argument imo.

WandaWonder · 13/02/2024 21:57

Coffeedate · 13/02/2024 21:43

@ohdearwhatcan I'm exactly the same, I like a bit of chivalry especially for the first date. It doesn't leave a good impression if he can't even offer me a coffee. I probably would have said it's ok I will get my own , it's the fact he didn't offer

Jane Austen is that you?

SoupDragon · 13/02/2024 21:58

I sincerely hope I've managed to raise my daughter to be a stronger, more independent woman than some of posters on this thread.

sunshineandshowers40 · 13/02/2024 21:58

How old are you OP? I would have thought the same but would probably be more annoyed that he didn't ask what I would like when he sent the text. I wouldn't expect a friend to get my coffee in this situation but they would probably know what I would like and have got me a drink.

A man shouldn't have to pay for the first drink so you are being unreasonable.

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/02/2024 21:58

Naptrappedmummy · 13/02/2024 21:50

Clearly.

Reducing women to prizes that need to be won by men is part of the problem.

Terfosaurus · 13/02/2024 21:58

I'll have to ask my son who pays if he goes on a date. As a gay man. If its the 'gentlemanly' thing to do.

MajorCleven · 13/02/2024 22:00

If you've made the effort to meet someone, no matter who suggested it, it's really not worth putting their back up over saving yourself £3 on a coffee. I think the person who arrives first should wait and then the coffees are ordered together, gender irrelevant. One party says don't worry I'll get these, other party says don't be silly, I'll pay for my own - job done. Anything else is just a bit strange.

TheTimeIsNowMaybeNow · 13/02/2024 22:00

Just because he buys the first coffee does not mean he won't turn into a tight fisted arsehole once you are married and have kids

Naptrappedmummy · 13/02/2024 22:01

TheTimeIsNowMaybeNow · 13/02/2024 22:00

Just because he buys the first coffee does not mean he won't turn into a tight fisted arsehole once you are married and have kids

No but if he’s already a tight-fisted arsehole he definitely will.

Damnloginpopup · 13/02/2024 22:02

Just wait outside and go in together don't you? I'd not dare someone who started without me..but I'd be on time too.

TheTimeIsNowMaybeNow · 13/02/2024 22:02

Naptrappedmummy · 13/02/2024 22:01

No but if he’s already a tight-fisted arsehole he definitely will.

Not buying a first coffee does not make someone a tight fisted arsehole though

Londonscallingme · 13/02/2024 22:03

Naptrappedmummy · 13/02/2024 21:23

This.

We’re not on an equal footing. Men earn more, they’re a bigger risk for us. Women are very usually the ones left looking after and paying for their children after they’ve fucked off. They don’t even pay tax on their razors. Women also do the vast majority of unpaid care, whether that’s as the mum of their kids, or sister looking after elderly parents.

Convincing us that we need to look ‘less grabby’ by splitting everything even on the first date is a brilliant trick they’ve played on us. Now they don’t have to pay a penny for a nice time, very usually sex and eventually a live in maid.

A man paying on the first few dates shows he feels he has to win you, and impress you, and is happy to take a gamble losing a few quid because he feels the chance to date you is worth it. It shows he isn’t allergic to parting with money which SO many men seem to be.

It may just be coincidence but in my experience EVERY man that is obsessed with going Dutch and spending every penny directly on himself usually turns out to be a tight, abusive wanker and this extends beyond dating into going exactly halves on food, or asking you to pay the nursery bill ‘because you’re choosing to work’.

This is also the experience of my friends.

There is tax on men’s razors; the standard rate of 20% VAT.

I can’t be arsed with the rest of your ridiculous comment but at least get the overt facts correct.