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How much alcohol do you and/or your partner drink?

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Dancinggirl84 · 13/02/2024 19:05

Genuinely interested to know what is considered 'normal' in terms of alcohol consumption. How much do you drink each day? Do you drink every day? Do you think you drink a normal amount/more than others/less than others? I don't think I drink a lot; I have maybe one or two glasses of nice red wine with a meal once a week, so max of four units per week. DP will have a beer as soon as he gets in from work, large glass of wine with evening meal, another beer or two, then often a whiskey etc later in the evening. More at weekends. I'm aware I drink a lot less than most of our friends. I'm just worried that hubby is drinking far more then the recommended weekly guidelines (14 units), and also that he drinks every day. His drinking increased over covid. I've tried talking to him about it but he just brushes me off and says it's normal. One week I noted down everything that he drank and worked out the alcohol units, it was 84. I showed him and he was very angry that I had been watching what he drank but he did agree that it was too much and cut down for a while. But it just crept back up again. The last couple of years he has done dry January and he seems so much healthier and happier when he isn't drinking. It also saves us a lot of money! This year he said he wasn't doing dry January but he wouldn't drink every day of the week (part of recommended guidelines) which seemed a good idea but he hasn't managed to have an alcohol free day at all. There's always a reason why he needs a drink: bad day at work, children are being annoying etc. We've just been away for a weekend, he drank all the beer and wine we'd brought with us in the first two nights, we were staying out in the sticks and he insisted on driving forty minutes to the nearest shop to buy another bottle of wine. I'm worried that he can't go without alcohol, and may be veering into 'functional alcoholic' territory. He thinks I'm overreacting and most people drink like he does. What do you think?

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Dancinggirl84 · 15/02/2024 19:53

ParrotCatDog · 15/02/2024 13:34

So he’s dismissed your concerns. He will cut down slightly for the next week but then it will go back to normal.

Ive been in this cycle a few years with my H but now im at the point of, its how he us, he wont stop so im making changes for me and kids and divorcing. He told me he didnt think i was serious when i talked about his alcohol drinking 🤷🏻‍♀️

I'm sorry you're in the same situation, I know you will be doing what is best for you and your children. I won't have any hesitation in doing the same if there is no change.

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Dancinggirl84 · 15/02/2024 19:57

mindutopia · 15/02/2024 14:48

I don't drink at all anymore, but when I was drinking, I would say I was drinking more than your dh is - well over 100 units a week. My dh drinks 3-5 drinks (beer or cider) maybe 4 days a week. Now I think that sounds like 'a lot' and it's probably on par with what your dh is drinking, but I don't think it's at all an unusual amount for many men (and I also don't think it makes him an alcoholic - being an alcoholic myself, I can assure my dh definitely isn't one of us).

It's less about the quantity than the how of drinking and the impact. Having a pint or two at lunch and a cider or two at dinner and then switching to fizzy water is not how an alcoholic drinks. But someone who is drinking heavily in short periods of time, hiding it, and continuing to do it when it has a negative impact on health is a real issue. Your dh may not seem 'drunk' or 'hungover' but he will definitely be affected and he will definitely not be as functioning as he would be if he wasn't drinking. And if he is morbidly obese, his liver is already likely under strain (due to fatty liver, for example) and he might already be pre-diabetic or at risk of T2 diabetes.

When I stopped, I had high levels of liver inflammation - not permanent liver damage, but my liver function was abnormal. And I developed a problem with my pancreas, which while not obviously linked to alcohol, I think was caused by a combination of things that included pancreatic inflammation (the pancreas and liver are very closely connected). While I'm not diabetic (and actually I'm an okay ish weight), people with pancreatic issues can develop diabetes (often type 3, which is a bit of a combination between 1 & 2). For health issues alone, it sounds like he would benefit from stopping.

All that said, do keep talking about it, even if he tells you not to 'nag' him. I hated when my dh brought up how concerned he was about my drinking. It was shameful and awful to think about and I just wanted the floor to open up and swallow me whole. It didn't change anything right away, but it did plant a seed. It took about another year, but that seed did grow. I'm very happily sober now and coming up on a year of sobriety. People absolutely can change. He does have to do it himself though.

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Thank you for this and well done on your sobriety. I think it's the fact the DP doesn't seem to be able to manage without alcohol, as well as the amount, that worries me. I hope he will change but as you say it has to be his decision.

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Dancinggirl84 · 15/02/2024 19:58

Ginandjuice57884 · 15/02/2024 18:28

If you don't get on with Alanon there's smart recovery friends and family. There are some in person meetings but also two online weekly zoom meetings you can join. I prefer them to Al-Anon myself

That sounds good, thank you, I'll look them up.

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MrsMidgeMaisel · 15/02/2024 20:10

2/3 beers or glasses of wine once or twice a fortnight. Then a proper night out every three months maybe?

mitogoshi · 15/02/2024 20:16

We don't usually have alcohol at all Monday-Thursday unless a special event. Tend to have wine with meals on a weekend (1-2 bottles over the 3 days between 2 of us) unless we are out, in which case beers

Dancinggirl84 · 15/02/2024 20:29

newtlover · 15/02/2024 19:21

The children love him and he is a good dad and I don't want to disrupt their world. But if his drinking starts to affect them then I will absolutely leave with the children.
OP I work with domestic abuse survivors and this is the sort of thing they very often say. They also often say that the abuse hasn't affected the children at all. But it does, sadly, there's no way to protect children when they are living under the same roof as an abuser.
I don't know but I guess it's similar with alcohol. Have you ever spoken to your DCs about it?

I know what you're saying, I have worked with families who have experienced DA too. Genuinely DP is a good dad: he plays with them, does homework with them, reads them stories at bedtime, makes time for them and is affectionate and loving with them. He isn't angry or abusive, he doesn't behave 'drunk'. He isn't abusive with me either. I worry that his drinking will increase and cause health issues and/or change his behaviour. At the moment it isn't noticeable. One of their school friends has parents who have recently divorced and they've been talking about how 'x' has two houses and doesn't see his Daddy as much and they've been very vocal that they wouldn't want that and they like us all living together and having Daddy to tuck them into bed and to wake up to etc. Like I said previously, if I felt it was in their best interests to leave then I absolutely would. And I'm very mindful that time may come if he doesn't decrease or stop his drinking, but we're not there just yet.

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Frith2013 · 15/02/2024 20:30

Zero. I have an alcoholic mother and my partner is a Muslim.

Twattergy · 15/02/2024 20:49

Peri menopause has removed the upside of drinking for me, so I now don't drink at home at all. Only when out in evening which is c once a month. My DH used to drink like your OP. He's been teetotal for 6 months and is much much healthier and slimmer. I'd suggest you focus on the health worry not the alcohol. Ie for a man your age the heart and liver risk is huge if you continue like this...how can I support you to reduce this. He'll know its too much (my DH did) but he said he was finding it hard to care enough to take action.

Lovetotravel123 · 15/02/2024 20:51

We don’t drink at all. Gave up 4 years ago and never looked back.

Cordohroys · 15/02/2024 22:07

Dancinggirl84 · 15/02/2024 20:29

I know what you're saying, I have worked with families who have experienced DA too. Genuinely DP is a good dad: he plays with them, does homework with them, reads them stories at bedtime, makes time for them and is affectionate and loving with them. He isn't angry or abusive, he doesn't behave 'drunk'. He isn't abusive with me either. I worry that his drinking will increase and cause health issues and/or change his behaviour. At the moment it isn't noticeable. One of their school friends has parents who have recently divorced and they've been talking about how 'x' has two houses and doesn't see his Daddy as much and they've been very vocal that they wouldn't want that and they like us all living together and having Daddy to tuck them into bed and to wake up to etc. Like I said previously, if I felt it was in their best interests to leave then I absolutely would. And I'm very mindful that time may come if he doesn't decrease or stop his drinking, but we're not there just yet.

Op if you are worried about his health, aren’t you concerned about him being morbidly obese? The alcohol needs to reduced for sure, but his weight seems to be quite a significant problem too.

ThreeRingCircus · 15/02/2024 22:22

I probably average 5 drinks a week. DH is similar. We don't drink mid-week but I'll normally have two G&Ts on a Friday night and then split a bottle of wine with DH over the weekend. Possibly a bit more in the summer e.g. having some beers in the garden.

My rules (for myself) are to not drink Mon-Thu and no more than 3 alcoholic drinks at home on any given day. I would say our intake is the higher side of normal when compared to friends and family.

Notsoslim · 15/02/2024 23:21

Cordohroys · 15/02/2024 22:07

Op if you are worried about his health, aren’t you concerned about him being morbidly obese? The alcohol needs to reduced for sure, but his weight seems to be quite a significant problem too.

The alcohol will be a contributing factor to the obesity.

Cordohroys · 16/02/2024 05:23

Notsoslim · 15/02/2024 23:21

The alcohol will be a contributing factor to the obesity.

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Yes of course but the obesity is like the elephant in the room - it was mentioned and it’s a significant problem but alcohol is the focus, what about sugar, plastic fats, processed foods, lack of movement, mental health. Cutting back on booze is not the magic bullet - if health is the concern so much more needs to change.

Notsoslim · 16/02/2024 05:59

Cordohroys · 16/02/2024 05:23

Yes of course but the obesity is like the elephant in the room - it was mentioned and it’s a significant problem but alcohol is the focus, what about sugar, plastic fats, processed foods, lack of movement, mental health. Cutting back on booze is not the magic bullet - if health is the concern so much more needs to change.

Maybe the OP just wants to tackle so many things at a time. The alcohol is often very much linked to lack of movement too and poor food choices .

It’s a good place to start IMO when you’re drinking 84 units a week. In addition to all the excess calories that will be contributing, some research suggests alcohol can also impair your ability to burn fat.

Cordohroys · 16/02/2024 06:09

Depends on what the issues are and we don't know - best for the OP to find out the source of the over-eating and the over-drinking. Plenty of obese tee-totallers who are eating their way to an early grave, the obesity is being overlooked here, mention alcohol on these boards and everyone starts foaming and this thread is no exception.

Notsoslim · 16/02/2024 06:12

Cordohroys · 16/02/2024 06:09

Depends on what the issues are and we don't know - best for the OP to find out the source of the over-eating and the over-drinking. Plenty of obese tee-totallers who are eating their way to an early grave, the obesity is being overlooked here, mention alcohol on these boards and everyone starts foaming and this thread is no exception.

It’s just the way threads go - people would be making a lot of comments about his weight if OP was focusing on that too in the initial post. But she highlighted the alcohol so people responded accordingly.

And btw plenty of thin alcoholics drink their way to an early grave.

Yes, they should definitely look at the root of any and all addictive behaviours her husband has.

I’m just saying is I can see why Op is focusing on his alcohol consumption before addressing any issues she has with his diet - at least to start with.

Cordohroys · 16/02/2024 06:42

Notsoslim · 16/02/2024 06:12

It’s just the way threads go - people would be making a lot of comments about his weight if OP was focusing on that too in the initial post. But she highlighted the alcohol so people responded accordingly.

And btw plenty of thin alcoholics drink their way to an early grave.

Yes, they should definitely look at the root of any and all addictive behaviours her husband has.

I’m just saying is I can see why Op is focusing on his alcohol consumption before addressing any issues she has with his diet - at least to start with.

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But to start with it might be easier to convince him to move a bit more and moving his body will have a significant positive impact on his health. Movement is the best medicine.

Tel12 · 16/02/2024 06:46

Your husband has a problem and he's drinking way too much. The fact that he can't go without should really be a wake up call. A lot of people drink too much, doesn't make it normal. Your husband has a problem, the bigger problem will be getting him to acknowledge it. Maybe you could start by giving up first?

Amybelle88 · 16/02/2024 07:45

My husband doesn't drink at all - I might drink once or twice a year but not one bit bothered if I don't.

At this point in my life, it doesn't interest me and I hate hangovers.

Notsoslim · 16/02/2024 08:46

Cordohroys · 16/02/2024 06:42

But to start with it might be easier to convince him to move a bit more and moving his body will have a significant positive impact on his health. Movement is the best medicine.

Maybe easier ,maybe not. Depends on the individual. Could possibly be done in tandem with reducing alcohol intake as well, so I guess it’s not necessarily an either or.

I just hope for OPs sake her husband gets a grip of it because 80+ units of alcohol per week is far too much so I can see why she’s alarmed.

Dancinggirl84 · 16/02/2024 21:08

Twattergy · 15/02/2024 20:49

Peri menopause has removed the upside of drinking for me, so I now don't drink at home at all. Only when out in evening which is c once a month. My DH used to drink like your OP. He's been teetotal for 6 months and is much much healthier and slimmer. I'd suggest you focus on the health worry not the alcohol. Ie for a man your age the heart and liver risk is huge if you continue like this...how can I support you to reduce this. He'll know its too much (my DH did) but he said he was finding it hard to care enough to take action.

Thank you, really nice to hear that your DH managed to stop drinking. I've tried the health route. DP will acknowledge that he drinks too much but won't/can't change.

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ForLilacShaker · 02/11/2025 20:28

I drink most nights, when I usually drink a lot the next day I drink lots of water a 1liter, or maybe more,as it's the best thing to detox your liver, also mostly I eat before I have a couple of drinks. If you know you drink a lot, drink lots of water as it's good to clean your liver. People in this forum say like 3 or 4 bottles of wine a week it's too much, I know people who drink a bottle of wine every night and they are healthy people, they have done test on their liver and the doctors told them their liver is normal

TeenLifeMum · 02/11/2025 20:30

I have a bottle of wine a month roughly. More if it’s friend’s birthdays but often I’m driving or on call for work so stick to 0% gin.

cottontail24 · 03/11/2025 18:23

These threads do tend to go the same way. Lots of posters say they drink nothing or very little and I think that puts off regular drinkers from posting as they think it makes them look ‘bad’. So I don’t think it’s an accurate representation.

I have a glass or two of wine 4-5 nights a week with dinner. I do go above 14 units but am healthy. I think!

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