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Thread 37 Sunak : Rishi has a plan, right?

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DuncinToffee · 13/02/2024 12:14

Or back to square one?

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https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4991119-sunak-created-by-ai?page=40&reply=132989726

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DuncinToffee · 16/02/2024 09:30

MrTiddlesTheCat · 16/02/2024 09:12

That's evil.

Evil, cruel indeed Angry

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cakeorwine · 16/02/2024 09:32

Flamme · 16/02/2024 09:26

That GDPR excuse for food bank referrals is nonsense, isn't it? It's clearly a legitimate use of data to which the data subject consents.

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Charities, NHS and social services share data and refer to each other all the time - and follow data protection practice.

It's perfectly allowed under GDPR - and I am sure the ICO has something to say about this

Data sharing: a code of practice | ICO

Data sharing: a code of practice

https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/uk-gdpr-guidance-and-resources/data-sharing/data-sharing-a-code-of-practice/

Saucery · 16/02/2024 09:34

The Food Bank thing is just disgusting. And nothing at all to do with GDPR. I wonder what food banks will do, though? Will they not accept the DWP signposting slip anyway?
And yet more put on hard pressed school staff. People are much less likely to tell or ask their school for a referral, because it can be really difficult to build that sort of relationship with a school, for many reasons.

placemats · 16/02/2024 09:37

cakeorwine · 16/02/2024 09:32

Charities, NHS and social services share data and refer to each other all the time - and follow data protection practice.

It's perfectly allowed under GDPR - and I am sure the ICO has something to say about this

Data sharing: a code of practice | ICO

Good point. It's not just cruel but has to be unlawful.

I know someone whose mum had had to upload bank statements for a month as part of her UC review. It's very complicated and she wouldn't be able to do it without his help.

Saucery · 16/02/2024 09:38

Easier to unhook the benefits system from the charity sector I suppose. Than to make the benefits system fit for purpose. This way they can claim no relationship between the two.
Not enough to live on? Must be your own fault, eh.

cakeorwine · 16/02/2024 09:41

"He told the BBC a lot of Tory voters appeared to have stayed at home and suggested more could turn out at a general election, which he said "focuses people's minds in a different way to a by-election"."

So as usual - if the turnout is low compared to General Elections, then it must ONLY be Conservatve voters who stayed at home and ALL the Labour supporters must have voted.....

itsgettingweird · 16/02/2024 09:41

BIossomtoes · 16/02/2024 08:06

It seems that turnout in Wellingborough was poor, all the Tory voters stayed at home. I’m so enjoying watching the Tories die by a thousand cuts.

Starmer talks a lot about hope too. They need to put that front and centre between now and the election, keep talking about the party of hope.

And they don't question why their supporters couldn't be bothered to muster up the energy to support them 🤦🏼‍♀️

DuncinToffee · 16/02/2024 09:42

I don't know if it was a coincidence but a Andrew Neil tweet just showed up on my timeline stating that Germany has at least as many foodbanks as the UK, this was duly community noted with

Germany has 964 food banks

UK has 1646

This is also despite the fact that Germany population is 15 million larger than UK

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BIossomtoes · 16/02/2024 09:43

It was a lovely day too. I guess they’d have blamed the weather if it had been raining.

DuncinToffee · 16/02/2024 09:43

The Conservatives now lost more by elections than in any other Parliament since 1945.

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cakeorwine · 16/02/2024 09:44

Charities refer to other partners all the time. You can tell the person that your data may be shared with an external partner - and record that consent - and then the data is shared.

It's good practice to have a data sharing agreement - but not essential. As long as everyone agrees what the purpose is and what the data can be used for.

I would love to see the Secretary of State quizzed about this . In detail

Or are they going to stop ALL external referrals to any charity?

placemats · 16/02/2024 09:46

Also Conservative voters voted for Reform as er, em, er, something, protest?

DuncinToffee · 16/02/2024 09:47

Sunak in full AI mode; Labout don't have a plan, we do have a plan, stick to the plan.

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DuncinToffee · 16/02/2024 09:48

Wellingborough parliamentary by-election, result:

LAB: 45.9% (+19.5)
CON: 24.6% (-37.6)
REF: 13.0% (+13.0)
LDEM: 4.7% (-3.1)
IND: 3.7% (+3.7)
GRN: 3.4% (-0.1)

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DuncinToffee · 16/02/2024 09:49

Kingswood parliamentary by-election, result:

LAB: 44.9% (+11.5)
CON: 34.9% (-21.3)
REF: 10.4% (+10.4)
GRN: 5.8% (+3.4)
LDEM: 3.5% (-3.5)
UKIP: 0.5% (+0.5)

Votes cast: 24,879

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placemats · 16/02/2024 09:52

Regarding Wellingborough Con vote. From 62% down to 25%. Tories should reflect on how disastrous that is.

Edit to add: but they won't.

countrygirl99 · 16/02/2024 09:52

Thought I heard Keir Starmer say that despite the low turnout Labour got more votes in Wellingborough than at the last election. I was knitting though so I wasn't paying full attention.

Roussette · 16/02/2024 09:54

I wonder if the Wellingborough vote was partly to do with the fact Bone put his boneheaded partner up for election.
Surely that was a beyond ridiculous decision.

AdamRyan · 16/02/2024 09:56

Finding the move to reform pretty funny!
Especially as lots of the "what a woman is" threads have had some sterling posts pointing out if that's your single issue vote, you need to go Reform or SDP. Grin

What are the Tories going to do? Go even more hard right? Watch their vote base get split? Go centre to try to get votes back from Labour? Not really any good options for them, shame

DuncinToffee · 16/02/2024 09:56

from Lewis Goddall

Wellingborough had become the safest of safe Tory seats. Majority of 18500. The fall in the Tory vote (-37.6) is the biggest drop for any party since the war.

Swing of 28.6% 2nd biggest in history, only just shy of the record

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itsgettingweird · 16/02/2024 10:00

Saucery · 16/02/2024 09:34

The Food Bank thing is just disgusting. And nothing at all to do with GDPR. I wonder what food banks will do, though? Will they not accept the DWP signposting slip anyway?
And yet more put on hard pressed school staff. People are much less likely to tell or ask their school for a referral, because it can be really difficult to build that sort of relationship with a school, for many reasons.

Exactly.

It's doesn't breach GDPR when the person you are referring consents to you sharing that data.

I think they are just scrabbling around now and hoping at some point people start believing their shit whilst enjoying the last bits of misery they can deploy on the vulnerable.

Flamme · 16/02/2024 10:01

Roussette · 16/02/2024 09:54

I wonder if the Wellingborough vote was partly to do with the fact Bone put his boneheaded partner up for election.
Surely that was a beyond ridiculous decision.

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I'm sure it was. I saw an article about how it was really hard to find anyone displaying a Tory election poster there, and reasons given on the doorstep frequently included disgust at the choice of candidate.

itsgettingweird · 16/02/2024 10:01

DuncinToffee · 16/02/2024 09:43

The Conservatives now lost more by elections than in any other Parliament since 1945.

Finally they've acheived something WinkGrin

cakeorwine · 16/02/2024 10:01

AdamRyan · 16/02/2024 09:56

Finding the move to reform pretty funny!
Especially as lots of the "what a woman is" threads have had some sterling posts pointing out if that's your single issue vote, you need to go Reform or SDP. Grin

What are the Tories going to do? Go even more hard right? Watch their vote base get split? Go centre to try to get votes back from Labour? Not really any good options for them, shame

This is the thing about the Tories - move further to the right and you lose support from the traditional Tories - who seem to have no home in the Tory party.

The likes of John Major, Ken Clarke - and Tories who support those kind of people.

The Brexit purge of such MPs will come back to bite them

AdamRyan · 16/02/2024 10:03

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-68313995

I love Damien Egan. He seems like a sweetheart (local to me so I see him on the news). Great acceptance speech
Also like hearing a Brizzle accent. Makes a change from Rees Moggs drawl.

Damien Egan

Watch: Labour’s Damien Egan gives victory speech

Watch: Labour’s Damien Egan gives victory speech

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-68313995