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Looks like the coward died in the Thames [edit by MNHQ]

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catagoryA · 09/02/2024 17:14

Police think Abdul Shokoor Ezedi "died in the Thames", having last been seen leaning over Chelsea bridge.

Couldn't face the disability and disfigurement that he had attempted to inflict on helpless girls, but rebounded onto himself , maybe.

Couldn't face justice - coward

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-68255937

Clapham attack latest: Police believe Abdul Shokoor Ezedi's body in the Thames - BBC News

It is likely Abdul Shokoor Ezedi died after going into the river at Chelsea Bridge, police say, but his remains are yet to be found.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-68255937

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CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 10/02/2024 10:40

SquirmOfEels · 10/02/2024 08:48

Yes, that's the bit that I find a little odd. There's a coffee stall at the end of the bridge - you can see it, and a cluster of people by it in the last picture/vid (it's on the right hand side of the bridge as you look at the pic). I don't know what time it shuts, but it's clearly open at the time he arrived at the bridge.

So how long did he spend to-ing and fro-ing there? I'm guessing he can't have jumped from the right hand side of the bridge, or surely coffee stall customers would have seen him. So left had side, and just wait until no other pedestrians?

I don't think he could have got in a car on the bridge itself - it's a very conspicuous place for a vehicle to pull over, also he's have to climb the barrier that separates pavement from road, and someone doing that would also be conspicuous and memorable to any passers by

I think he must also have been towards the north side of the bridge, as the footage on the BBC site shows that the camera that is covering the bridge from the south has a clear view of the railings (on both sides of the bridge) and a jump would have been seen, as would his zigzag between peering over railings and back to main pavement. But once over midway, that camera would lose him, and it seems he was picked up nowhere on cameras to the north side.

Hence assumption that he left the bridge by jumping (especially if the zigzags looked like practice runs)

If you want your tin foil hat on, there is one other place he could have gone - which is a small piece of scrub where the bridge meets the embankment at the northwest of the bridge. There's even a novel, whose name temporarily eludes me) where the protagonist had to hide in London and that spot was where he made his den

Off topic but is that a book where he lives with a prostitute and her son he meets at kings cross? It was good, I wish I could remember too !

Flamme · 10/02/2024 10:43

EasternStandard · 10/02/2024 09:58

Men like this often kill themselves

After an acid attack? Where does this come from

Don't be disingenuous. It's perfectly obvious that the comment goes much wider than men who use acid.

JustHereWithMyPopcorn · 10/02/2024 12:03

I hope he had an excruciating drawn out death. He is scum of the worst kind.

EasternStandard · 10/02/2024 12:05

Flamme · 10/02/2024 10:43

Don't be disingenuous. It's perfectly obvious that the comment goes much wider than men who use acid.

Why draw conclusions from other crimes when it comes to behaviour?

You're not backing up what is posted with actual information

I linked below to acid attack behaviour

alwaysonadiet1 · 10/02/2024 12:10

Sorry if this has been stated already, they do have divers searching between Chelsea and Vauxhall Bridges at the moment.

MrsSkylerWhite · 10/02/2024 12:12

user146990847100 · Today 10:05
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Good. Save the taxpayer feeding and housing him! And hopefully his victims can rest easier knowing he wont be able to hurt them again

I suspect that poor family will never rest easier again. Finding his body may help.

MySugarBabyLove · 10/02/2024 12:31

alwaysonadiet1 · 10/02/2024 12:10

Sorry if this has been stated already, they do have divers searching between Chelsea and Vauxhall Bridges at the moment.

Now now @alwaysonadiet1 · don’t get in the way of the conspiracy theorists who are pushing the narative that the police decided to state that he was dead so they can stop looking.

I presume all these people who seem to categorically know what happened have all applied to join the met recently?

Beautyofthedark · 10/02/2024 12:49

Flickersy · 10/02/2024 08:42

The cracked conspiracy theorists with huge bloody victim complexes on here are ridiculous.

It is a common pattern of behaviour for men who have carried out attacks like this to kill or try to kill themselves.

CCTV shows him entering the bridge but not leaving it.

It is very difficult to find someone who has entered the Thames and it's a huge and constantly moving river. Finding people is more about luck than anything else.

There are no other leads (that we know of).

I don't believe this is an excuse or conspiracy. It's a very likely scenario. I'm sorry you might not get the public spectacle of a trial for you to salivate over but unfortunately in this case it does appear that he's gone off the bridge.

This.

I can't believe some actually think there's a cover-up. Occam's razor, people.

Icequeen01 · 10/02/2024 13:15

@MySugarBabyLove Well said - this whole thread has become a nonsense now with all these ridiculous theories and demonising the Met again just for a change.

Tiddlywinks63 · 10/02/2024 13:24

Frangipanyoul8r · 10/02/2024 00:27

No one in their right mind would hide away the UK’s most wanted man with a massive, recognisable facial injury. I’d also assume he was dead.

It depends on what his motives were and I suspect there’s plenty of other males who wouldn’t bat an eyelid at attacking a woman with a corrosive liquid.
There was already one arrest for assisting him, no reason why there wouldn’t be more people involved.
I hope that he’s dead, that he died in agony and that they find the body. If they don’t then I suspect that the search will be considerably scaled down or stopped.

SurreyMumOfOne · 10/02/2024 13:40

For anyone else like me who had been looking at the BBC timeline and map, The Met police have actually released a far more detailed version which the BBC have abridged and with their accompanying map, I would say have their markings on their map slightly wrong. The reason I looked up The Met's original version is because what I read on the beeb didn't make sense - they've missed the bit where he crossed Chelsea bridge crossing south for the first time, before heading back.

The reason I mention it, is that in the Met's list you can better see the high number of sightings there had been, which makes it more understandable to conclude he must have entered the river when he suddenly vanished.

SurreyMumOfOne · 10/02/2024 13:42

Sorry, forgot to attach part of the list, for info.

Looks like the coward died in the Thames [edit by MNHQ]
Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/02/2024 13:44

ScierraDoll · 09/02/2024 23:17

I'll believe it when they have a body.
Sadly I think it would be politically convenient for him to be declared dead with no body. The case will be slowly forgotten with the big questions of why he was granted asylum, why the church supported his "conversion" to Christianity will remain unanswered

Exactly this

FWIW I don't like feeling this way and on the whole would rather take the police's word for it
However in the case of the Met that would perhaps be naive ...

Backwiththeillbehaviour · 10/02/2024 13:48

My uncle was murdered (police think) and went into the Thames. It took 3 months but he did resurface eventually.

SquirmOfEels · 10/02/2024 13:51

Hats off to the team searching the Thames today.

There's a red flag up for strong tidal flow, so it's even more hazardous than usual

Totallymessed · 10/02/2024 13:59

There would have been an actual chance of the police arresting him if the police had bothered to release his description earlier. You know , the small fact that he had an extremely noticeable wound on his face....the Met are, at best, institutionally incompetent. And I see yet another of them is currently in court accused of multiple rapes. 🙄

Flamme · 10/02/2024 14:07

How would there have been a chance of the police arresting him if he was dead in the river shortly after the attack? They didn't know about the wound till they had found the specific piece of CCTV footage and gone through it , and the best police in the world can't do that within minutes of a chaotic event like this.

beeonmybonnett · 10/02/2024 14:08

How do they know he fell into the Thames?? Surely the cctv would have captured that ?? If it was able to show him on the bridge then how could it not show him going into the river , unless he just evaporated?? I don’t get it !

crumblingschools · 10/02/2024 14:14

@beeonmybonnett maybe the image of him on the bridge was captured from camera on bus/car rather than CCTV

Flamme · 10/02/2024 14:14

Tiddlywinks63 · 10/02/2024 13:24

It depends on what his motives were and I suspect there’s plenty of other males who wouldn’t bat an eyelid at attacking a woman with a corrosive liquid.
There was already one arrest for assisting him, no reason why there wouldn’t be more people involved.
I hope that he’s dead, that he died in agony and that they find the body. If they don’t then I suspect that the search will be considerably scaled down or stopped.

The point is not so much whether other people might have condoned his crime, but whether they would have taken the risk of being arrested themselves if they tried to help him hide - especially bearing in mind that, if he couldn't seek treatment, there would be a significant risk of being left with his body on their hands.

We don't know what the person who was arrested for assisting him is alleged to have done, but it seems pretty clear that it must have been to do with preparing for the attack. At that point they may not have known how awful his crime would be, how much publicity it would get, and how great the risk to themselves this would pose. Obviously anyone helping him after the attack would be in a very different position.

Abouttimeforanamechange · 10/02/2024 14:19

There would have been an actual chance of the police arresting him if the police had bothered to release his description earlier. You know , the small fact that he had an extremely noticeable wound on his face..

Earlier than when? When did the police know that he had a wound on his face? When was that information released?

The attack happened, I think, around 7.30 pm. How long do you think it took to identify the casualties and witnesses, take statements (given that some witnesses I believe required medical attention) identify the suspect (given that the victim hasn't been able to speak) and track down the Tesco cctv?

Going by the bbc's timeline, he was probably already in the river by the time they'd done all that.

Hats off to the team searching the Thames today.

There's a red flag up for strong tidal flow, so it's even more hazardous than usual

Indeed. These operations aren't without risk, and the safety of the divers is more important than appeasing internet conspiracy theorists.

SquirmOfEels · 10/02/2024 14:21

Totallymessed · 10/02/2024 13:59

There would have been an actual chance of the police arresting him if the police had bothered to release his description earlier. You know , the small fact that he had an extremely noticeable wound on his face....the Met are, at best, institutionally incompetent. And I see yet another of them is currently in court accused of multiple rapes. 🙄

His name and a picture of him were released at 0935 on 1February, with a description saying facial wound.

Picture of him in Tesco showing the wound (and what he was wearing) issued same day at 17:55

I suppose they had a working theory of who it might be from the car ownership info, then they'd have to get the photo and show it to people who had witnessed the attack (to check it was him, not someone who had nicked his car) and at the same time I suppose the Newcastle police would be checking that he was neither at home nor at work. Because they wouldn't want to issue a pic of the wrong person.

Plus start hunting him down (maybe accounts from witnesses who saw him head for the Tube, plus CCTV from Tube stations to work out where he went, that led idc to the pic of him in Tesco.

I've no idea how long that would reasonably take.

Nor if it would have made that much difference to the outcome (assuming he did, as they have concluded, drown himself about 4 hours after the attack)

Flamme · 10/02/2024 14:22

EasternStandard · 10/02/2024 12:05

Why draw conclusions from other crimes when it comes to behaviour?

You're not backing up what is posted with actual information

I linked below to acid attack behaviour

This is ludicrous. Why would there be a specific pattern of "acid attack behaviour" as opposed to "knife attack behaviour" or "gun attack behaviour" or "fire attack behaviour"?

The fact is, as @Flickersy has correctly pointed out, there is a well-known pattern of men who have carried out attacks like this killing or trying to kill themselves. There is nothing special about the use of acid that changes that. Third-hand and somewhat sparse information about four cases that happened in a very different culture proves absolutely nothing.

EasternStandard · 10/02/2024 14:25

Flamme · 10/02/2024 14:22

This is ludicrous. Why would there be a specific pattern of "acid attack behaviour" as opposed to "knife attack behaviour" or "gun attack behaviour" or "fire attack behaviour"?

The fact is, as @Flickersy has correctly pointed out, there is a well-known pattern of men who have carried out attacks like this killing or trying to kill themselves. There is nothing special about the use of acid that changes that. Third-hand and somewhat sparse information about four cases that happened in a very different culture proves absolutely nothing.

Of course it’s not ‘ludicrous’. You are very insular

I linked below cultural reality of the crime, which is increasing. Have a read beyond your own parameters and understand why it happens.

Which cultural influence did the criminal grow up with?

Flamme · 10/02/2024 14:27

EasternStandard · 10/02/2024 08:15

No idea if he’s dead or not but I think the amount of networks set up to aid people who get in are underestimated

Accessing those networks takes a hell of a lot of money. What evidence is there that he had access to that?