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Does anyone else feel unnerved by the news about King Charles?

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TakemedowntoPotatoCity · 06/02/2024 11:53

Yes I know this belongs in the Royal section but more traffic here for people feeling like I do.

King Charles has cancer, I am sure William is wondering if he will become King sooner than he anticipated. It makes me wonder too if Kate will be okay due to her recent surgery - William really needs her by his side if he is going to take on the Big Job.

Harry rushing home feels bad to me. I mean, it's good that he is coming to see his dad but it makes me feel as though it's serious - I just hope, hope it's not pancreatic cancer - but I just don't have a good feeling.

The Queen's only been gone 16 months. I feel out of sorts. Anyone else?

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PutinSmellsPassItOn · 06/02/2024 21:25

I'm a bit more concerned about the fact that we're constantly hearing about the blokes cancer caught at an early stage than we do about cancer patient who have their treatment delayed so much they end up being handed a death sentence and the other cancer patients who die in screaming agony because of the lack of support available tbh. I'm sure Charles and the rest of them will be fine. 🙄

Hyldgegrub · 06/02/2024 21:27

MCOut · 06/02/2024 21:22

@Hyldgegrub What is disrespectful, is to assume that your experience is universal.

Yes, staff do their best, but it is equally out of order for you to be taking people to task, when they may have had to assume the consequences of long wait times, that you were fortunate enough to not have to experience.

I don’t deny that will be some people’s experience of waiting for cancer treatment. But they are claiming long waiting for cancer assessment and treatment on the NHS is the norm and it’s simply not true.

Rumpoleoftheballet · 06/02/2024 21:27

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I'm not a fan of Harry, or Charles for that matter, however I hardly think you can call somebody visiting their ill father 'attention seeking'. Pretty sure he could find other ways to grab some headlines if that's what his aim way. Wouldn't most children visit their parent or loved one?

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Branleuse · 06/02/2024 21:27

FluffyFanny · 06/02/2024 16:24

Oh, here we go agian... when will people understand that money allocated for Royal funerals and coronations doesn't come out of the food bank fund!

There isn't a food bank fund.

OpalOrchid · 06/02/2024 21:27

Hyldgegrub · 06/02/2024 21:24

…and what is wrong with waiting a few weeks for treatment on the NHS? If you don’t want to wait you can speed it up by going private like Charles. But the prognosis is unlikely to change, it is likely to make zero difference clinically to wait a few weeks.

Obviously some cases will be more urgent.

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You think most people can afford to go private like Charles? Oh to live in your world.

porridgeisbae · 06/02/2024 21:28

Hyldgegrub · 06/02/2024 21:17

I’m getting rather annoyed with the misinformation around the NHS and cancer treatment. Both my parents and many others are still benefiting from the 2 week wait pathway. It’s all been very smooth and relatively quick for my parents. Stop misrepresenting reality and scaremongering.

King Charles will not have a better outcome than my dead parent, who did not die due to poor care. The NHS did the absolute best they could last year. My other parent has been diagnosed, assessed and op booked within 6 weeks. I’m happy with that.

I think it’s really disrespectful to NHS staff to claim that private care for cancer is better, when it really isn’t true for a lot of people with cancer. It would have made fuck all difference for my parents.

I'm prioritising getting some investigatory scans privately with my PIP etc and of course it's a lot quicker than how long NHS would take to get round to them. I can get a private ultrasound or MRI from several companies within a day or two of wanting it.

So maybe the start of treatment isn't quicker (I wouldn't know) but a private diagnosis of whatever might be going on is definitely quicker. Not that this is relevant in KC's case as his was supposedly picked up by mistake- though no doubt he then also needed an ultrasound/MRI etc.

Keychangeoff · 06/02/2024 21:29

Hyldgegrub · 06/02/2024 21:27

I don’t deny that will be some people’s experience of waiting for cancer treatment. But they are claiming long waiting for cancer assessment and treatment on the NHS is the norm and it’s simply not true.

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Have you seen how well the UK does for cancer survival rates compared to other developed countries ? I’ll give you a hint , it’s embarrassing.

Branleuse · 06/02/2024 21:30

SweetBirdsong · 06/02/2024 16:43

@Branleuse

I could not give a shit whether any of them get cancer and die.

Harold Shipman was a parent and grandparents. So was Hitler. I don't give a fuck.

I am against even the concept of royalty and monarchy, and then the reality with this lot is that they are mostly into hunting animals, adultery, bypassing the law of the land, and paedophilia. Barely a good one amongst them.

If you need someone to be all worried and upset that some rich cunt they've never met in order to be a 'nice person' then I guess we just wouldn't be friends in real life. How sad

Good grief @Branleuse Calm down. You will give yourself a nosebleed! Shock

Are you OK? Serious question. You sound irrationally furious and angry - to the point of it being actually worrying...

Thanks for worrying about me.
Are you offering help and support ?

Todayzname · 06/02/2024 21:30

Not really. It happens - particularly when one is older.

I’d be more upset if it were someone close to me, particularly close and young.

We also don’t know if it’s just a mole gone rogue or pancreatic cancer.

A bit annoyed about the overkill on the news - not wishing to sound callous but he’s a 75 year old man. What of those suffering in Gaza, Ukraine?

irishapple · 06/02/2024 21:32

Sunnytimesarecoming · 06/02/2024 12:10

In MH services there was a huge influx of calls when the queen died. Of course not all of those people cared deeply about the Queen, it was the idea that something which was a constant for most of our lives was not there anymore. That in itself is unnerving for some. Change is unsettling. Uncertainty is unsettling. You're not abnormal for feeling this way, OP. It's not about King Charles, it's about our own view of what is the natural order of things and what we see as familiar.

Wonderfully explained

Hyldgegrub · 06/02/2024 21:34

OpalOrchid · 06/02/2024 21:27

You think most people can afford to go private like Charles? Oh to live in your world.

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Nope. We couldn’t afford to go private paying in cash no. Although if we had to we’d take a loan out I guess? But didn’t feel we need to.

My parent was diagnosed with stage 3 cancer then died within a few months. My other parent now has earlier stage cancer so we’re hoping it’s treatable.

I don’t think it’s helpful to make people in my shoes worry about cancer care for our loved ones - I think it’s irresponsible when the 2 week pathway is still largely in place.

Zone2NorthLondon · 06/02/2024 21:36

RF are an emblematic tradition that’s embedded in UK culture, significant disruption or change will unsettle many people
Plus the repeated media coverage adds to that creeping hysteria and foreboding
On balance he’s an older adult with CA that has apparently been caught v early, moderate drinker, healthy lifestyle. Immediate Access to health care and support.

Hyldgegrub · 06/02/2024 21:37

porridgeisbae · 06/02/2024 21:28

I'm prioritising getting some investigatory scans privately with my PIP etc and of course it's a lot quicker than how long NHS would take to get round to them. I can get a private ultrasound or MRI from several companies within a day or two of wanting it.

So maybe the start of treatment isn't quicker (I wouldn't know) but a private diagnosis of whatever might be going on is definitely quicker. Not that this is relevant in KC's case as his was supposedly picked up by mistake- though no doubt he then also needed an ultrasound/MRI etc.

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Yes this is very true and I agree

porridgeisbae · 06/02/2024 21:40

Hyldgegrub · 06/02/2024 21:34

Nope. We couldn’t afford to go private paying in cash no. Although if we had to we’d take a loan out I guess? But didn’t feel we need to.

My parent was diagnosed with stage 3 cancer then died within a few months. My other parent now has earlier stage cancer so we’re hoping it’s treatable.

I don’t think it’s helpful to make people in my shoes worry about cancer care for our loved ones - I think it’s irresponsible when the 2 week pathway is still largely in place.

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It's two weeks to get an initial consultation or ultrasound or something. That's it. Then we don't know how long we'll be waiting for anything else.

But you're right that there's no point worrying about it if we can't afford to do anything about it.

I can run to a couple of scans but I couldn't pay for private chemo or something.

The luckier people are those that happen to get access to private healthcare through work etc. Even then, the care isn't going to be 'like King Charles' of course.

chocolatesaltyballs22 · 06/02/2024 21:53

HermioneWeasley · 06/02/2024 12:02

No. It will make zero difference to my life.

Well you might get an extra bank holiday..

Willyoubuymeahouseofgold · 06/02/2024 21:55

Nope.
Many many other things deserve my attention or worry

TommyNever · 06/02/2024 21:55

I only feel unnerved by the fact that we still retain a monarchy in the 21st century. Long past time to ditch this primitive nonsense.

CrazyCatLover · 06/02/2024 21:56

I find it unnerving that this shitty government are going to expect me to do 13 hour shifts in my 70's....

porridgeisbae · 06/02/2024 21:57

CrazyCatLover · 06/02/2024 21:56

I find it unnerving that this shitty government are going to expect me to do 13 hour shifts in my 70's....

Are they? I doubt that.

bringincrazyback · 06/02/2024 22:00

porridgeisbae · 06/02/2024 21:57

Are they? I doubt that.

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I think that's exactly what's going to happen, sadly.

porridgeisbae · 06/02/2024 22:05

bringincrazyback · 06/02/2024 22:00

I think that's exactly what's going to happen, sadly.

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Well we'll see but I doubt it, at least from the Tories, as the elderly are their main voters. Having to work until 67 is bad enough though.

Someone having to do 13 hour shifts at 70 would be really unlucky though- it wouldn't be worth the money to me at that age. I'd probably stop due to some illness or something (by that age, most of us will have something.)

0hNoNotAgain · 06/02/2024 22:06

Yes I know this belongs in the Royal section but more traffic here for people feeling like I do.

Surely people feeling like you do will find it in the Royal section?
That's why a lot of us block that section so we don't get this sh!t in our feeds....

Emily1583 · 06/02/2024 22:12

Not unnerved but I do feel it's quite a serious illness he has. Harry flying in rings alarm bells. I think we'll see an abdication to William soon after the election whenever that'll be.

Concestor · 06/02/2024 22:18

No. My dad is in his 80s and has had cancer in that area on and off for years. It's just what happens as you get old

Poppins2016 · 06/02/2024 22:20

Honestly, the only thing I feel unnerved by is the discomfort (and anger) I feel knowing that he is in such a position of privilege that he can have immediate treatment while other people in the UK literally end up dying while waiting for/due to delayed treatment on the NHS. I often wonder what would happen if the monarchy/MPs/etc. could only access the same services as the general public (I suspect more effort would be made to make said services decent and fit for purpose).

That said, I do feel compassion, because cancer is a horrible illness and I'd hate to see anyone suffer and/or not receive treatment in a timely manner.

But if the worst happens, it honestly wouldn't affect me. The royal family are strangers to me and I have no personal connection to them, so I don't feel moved by their lives, illnesses, births or deaths.

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