We are being primed

[Mambo19866]

Story after story now of conscription being needed. I was thoroughly convinced that this is just scaremongering but the number of senior figures coming out again today warning us to prepare it really feels like they are getting us used to the idea. Also in the papers today the US is moving some of its nuclear stockpile to the UK. Getting bit nervous now I have to admit.

A little ditty by Madness... Land of hope and glory. 😁

The DM is on a roll today, it's absolutely everyone now that will be conscripted.

It’s fun to see so many people having aged into the right bracket to criticise the youth of today, keeping up a long, noble tradition! 🫡

https://historyhustle.com/2500-years-of-people-complaining-about-the-younger-generation/amp/

Wow, some weird young person hating on this thread.
Imagine, young people not being up for wanting to kill actual living human beings and getting screamed at as part of the weird military brainwashing machine. How unreasonable of them. How awful. How dare they.

Yes leave off the young I say, or anyone who does step up

I’m not in worry zone yet though

I agree! If younger people were saying this about the generation that can’t be named, there would be uproar!
Edit: not sure why it didn’t let me quote @Foxblue

This they'll need to deliver skill at arms training via tiktok and everyone will demand to get to operate the drones so they can work from home and engage via teams.

Honestly, the gov couldn't afford it.

The amount of households who require 2 adults to work to keep going is significantly higher than it used to be. I'm 30 so I'd be called up, DHs wage wouldn't cover our mortgage and bills and increased childcare costs for DS.

This is hardly a unique setup. If they force conscription and don't cover the cost, a huge portion of society will crumble.

If they do pay, basically they're showing that there is and always has been money that they have been refusing to put into NHS and other emergency services. If there is money then they can afford to increase recruitment etc.

I can vividly remember seeing army recruitment stands out and about when I was younger and never see them now. In supermarkets, town centres etc. So it hardly seems like they've been trying all that hard.

Well yes but the military and defence as a whole doesn't just do boots on the ground stuff do they. They do cyber, technical stuff and plenty in between, and need people to operate these.

The govt are cutting armed forces numbers and I assume budgets. The armed forces aren’t happy so are leaking mutterings about conscription.

I don't why people are going on about the younger generation, the youngest person to complete national service in 1963 would now be 81. Let's be honest hardly anyone of any age has been expecting to be called up for 60 years, unless as a reservist ! Maybe they just need to increase the upper age limit for reservist's to 60, sure they will be inundated and it will give Boris a chance

All the people on radio etc laughing, it’s not like any of them have been in a generation stepping up. Unless in armed forces

I believe there is a lot more going on with Russia than we know about. And yes, I do believe they’re trying to see what the reaction is to being ‘called up’.

But, there is no way most of the population would do it. Most will be excluded from the list I saw online!

Exactly! I like to think our young people are too savvy to get involved in this shit. My 15 year old ds told me yesterday “I’m not getting killed on behalf of some power mad greedy bastards”
Well said son! Times have changed and our young people think for themselves.

It's not work from home. Probably not much of a wellbeing provision either and being given orders rather than being involved in decision making is grievance worthy nowadays so i can't imagine it getting very far

@Foxblue I should have been clearer my post was veryyyy light hearted...

I can't take any of this seriously...

Sounds about right.

I don’t think people will need to have done national service. Look at Ukraine, people there had to fight with no experience. Quick boot camp and on your way. I think people would only fight if Russia were actually invading this country. If it’s shit kicking off elsewhere then why should our young people risk their lives? Does it make a difference to them who has the Donbas region (or even Poland).

I can’t imagine Russia would try to invade the uk. There might be (more) cyber attacks, more controlling behaviour such as cutting off gas supplies and financing the Houtis to control shipping in the area. More attacks at sea. But none of that will need or get conscription.

People talking about the “youth of today” as if our own generations between the ages of 16 and 25 were slaves to authority and didn’t think we knew better than everyone else ourselves.

There was talk of conscription in the second Iraq war and all the same things were being said then.

I agree with others that it’s mostly budget driven hyperbole - mounting a ground invasion of the UK would be no mean feat and sending troops overseas in numbers (to where? Ukraine? Yemen?) isn’t going to be palatable after previous experience in the Middle East.

I agree the conscription news is a prep for increased defence funding and sits alongside the recent news that the chancellor won't be making the tax cuts tories want in an election year. I think every generation has wasters so I'm sure the young could step up if needed but it won't happen. Part of me wishes it would to see what happens to all the former kids whose parents scream at the teachers when their precious offspring gets a detention or schools try to enforce discipline...

Warfare has changed, soldiers are far more skilled, its not a case of give them a rifle, and hope they learn to duck before they get shot like it was. Recruits would need to be skilled, intelligent, and motivated. Conscription doesn't discern.
It would only be that once the supply of useful personnel and equipment was exhausted, would it ever get to cannon fodder.
Somehow, Kyle, with his 2 gcses, 3 teeth, and comprehensive collection of grey joggers, is safe.

All pie in the sky, its not going to happen unless there was a prolonged land battle exhausting all technological resources first.

I find it hard to believe an invasion on our own doorstep [WWll type]. Potential nuclear, yes, but not boots on British soil.
The cold war threat was bad enough to live through in the 70/80's.

Totally this.

Added in poor WiFi signal complaints, Google maps to navigate a tank (I’m out of data and unable to use a map), water - where is my smoothie??, this pillow is too soft/ too hard ….

I remember the books ‘that’s not my dog’ … etc

can you imagine ‘that’s not my army…’ 🤦‍♀️😂

Somehow, Kyle, with his 2 gcses, 3 teeth, and comprehensive collection of grey joggers, is safe

That must mean that Oliver with his A*A levels, dental braces and his collection of designer jeans is safe too.

Youth of today too whingy and addicted to social media to ever survive conscription, whinge Mumsnet posters who have never survived conscription

Conscription historically includes working-age people, not just school leavers. Don't sleep too easy.