We are being primed

[Mambo19866]

Story after story now of conscription being needed. I was thoroughly convinced that this is just scaremongering but the number of senior figures coming out again today warning us to prepare it really feels like they are getting us used to the idea. Also in the papers today the US is moving some of its nuclear stockpile to the UK. Getting bit nervous now I have to admit.

Here you go, a list of what you are expected to have at home and other things.

All households was sent this brochure a while ago, and it was talked about in schools too.

https://rib.msb.se/filer/pdf/30307.pdf

Ha ha. Or if you are already prepared you won’t need to contribute to empty the shops.

Can you ever have enough loo roll?

I do find all of this “flabby babyish young people” talk funny from older generations. Young people don’t raise themselves?!

@bringsomewood I don't think you can compare Sweden to the UK.

thats exactly what soldiers are. Cannon fodder. They’re not important, the governments know they’re going to die, that’s all they’re put there to do. The fact you don’t realise that is quite worrying.

Hence we actually need to protect the young because there aren't enough of them & send in the over 50s.

No, but we can all learn from each other.

Agree
Im not a boomer but I have teens and extended family in their 20s and 30s and dont recognise the descriptions of young people.
Any ageism against "boomers" or older people is (not unreasonably) called out on threads but here there are multiple posts being ageist ...but thats ok because its young people...?

Actually l hate the way one comment by some general has been jumped in by the media to be some massive thing. Just terrifying people and telling the rest of the world that we are warmongering.

Of course it’s horrendous, toughening up is the last thing I’d want, and I don’t think a real concern yet

But the problem is the attacker makes the decision and the threat of horror doesn’t just dissolve if they act and no response. For dc too, including girls. Not worth thinking on but a reality for some where they haven’t asked to be attacked

I've got faith that the youth of today won't stand for rich men sending them off to war when they hide out in their bunkers. I genuinely hope if it ever happened they'd take to the streets and refuse because what would they do if the majority refused to go? They couldn't jail everyone, conscription could trigger the uprising that we've needed this past few years.

Nice bit of Ageism there. Or does Ageism only apply when people are talking about the ‘oldies?’ Typical double MN standards

I am not sure the youth of 100 years ago were much better. My (ignorant) thought is the lads sent to WW1 were short, skinny, malnourished and often alcoholic.
The point is still valid though, as I imagine that the army would not want a bunch of youths who largely do not want to be there clogging up their underfunded system (many others are better informed than me).

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Apparently cat sand is the thing to have if you are a real prepper. Goes in a bin bag put under the toilet seat for when you can’t flush..

Exactly this - I think it will be a step too far and nobody will accept being human shields for the rich

Yep yep yep

I think the younger gender are amazing - so bright and eloquent, caring and funny, self assured. Many of them have trained on Call of Duty extensively for many hours and would be just fine in a conscription situation.

@bringsomewood of course but cultural changes take decades...

"Primed" or not, trust me if a war with Russia is on the cars, it is the nukes that will do the talking and not boots on the ground

Russia, well their malicious president does not need an excuse EG west building up troops on their border her wil cite it as an attack by the west

The majority politician will put themselves first and everyone else last

I was a secondary school teacher for 26 years. The youth of today are capable, competent and hardworking and just lovely.

What are you basing your ageist comment on?

Are you talking about the brochure I posted? Because that is easy enough to follow for anyone.

Quite.

I was watching an episode of Steptoe the other day - in the 70s they were saying exactly the same about the young people of the day

What a pathetic, unintelligent response. In every generation there are always feckless people and there are always hard working, industrious people. The young people of today are no different. I know many hard working, intelligent, ambitious young people who put their lazy, older generations to shame.

I agree that young people today would not tolerate conscription. Not because they are avocado eating inadequates, but because most of them are far too savvy to risk their lives or kill other people just because the government tells them to. We don't live in that sort of world now, thankfully.

Ooops. Wrong reply!