We are being primed

[Mambo19866]

Story after story now of conscription being needed. I was thoroughly convinced that this is just scaremongering but the number of senior figures coming out again today warning us to prepare it really feels like they are getting us used to the idea. Also in the papers today the US is moving some of its nuclear stockpile to the UK. Getting bit nervous now I have to admit.

Well yes but anyone intelligent could discern the difference between what was actually needed for public health and what was patently unnecessary (policing the lengths of their neighbours walks etc).

The country cannot afford to lose more young people, there are already more over 65s than under 15s.

Wouldn’t it be better to conscript the over 50s since I assume they are less useless & incompetent? And if they end up as cannon fodder economically it makes more sense.

I actually agree with this as an over 50 menopausal woman. I'm ready, hand me a gun . I would most definitely be of more use than my laid back teens who get a bus 1 stop.

I'm not sure if 'we' are being 'primed' though, I don't watch the news and only aware of this through MN threads. Life is stressful enough without reading all the doom-mongering that passes for news these days.

@forcedfun but there is nuance isn’t there. Of course some rules were batshit because they couldn’t have 100s of rules about walks. And it’s human nature for some to police others behaviour, hence many MNs threads!

Those wankers in the States know what they are doing - the Russkie rockets are primed to hit the UK, Scotland to be precise as their first target. The US are famous for using the UK to save themselves.

The ‘pandemic’ showed us just how easily the Public can be manipulated by a team of behavioural scientists 😂😬.

None of what you’ve been seeing in the media over the past 3 years is accurate - the actual truth is being carefully dripped to a very specific time scale, until the information flood happens - and the Public around the world realise that good people behind the scenes have saved our arses.

The pandemic also showed us how woefully unprepared the UK is when it matters. Fighting a virus is one thing, going to war is another. You've only got to look at how unstable the Middle East is and how the Chinese are backing Russia to think that, in MN terms, we need to get our ducks in a row. This discussion might be making people angry or uncomfortable, but it's naïve not to have it.

These aren’t revolutionary thoughts

It would be men age 18-50 in combat roles, and women in supportive/logistical/medical roles. Women may be conscripted to the war effort but not for combat. They would be a hindrance.

Okay. So if we did leave NATO, what happens when Russian ships turn up to stalk British waters as a blatant act of provocation, which they've done before now, what do we do? We won't have any NATO allies to help us get them to back off, it'll be up to us to handle.

Also in the papers today the US is moving some of its nuclear stockpile to the UK.

The public won’t object as much to the above if they think conscription is an alternative

Yes I’m not sure leaving NATO is a wise move

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I remember Greenham Common though. People did object. Very much.

Very interesting thread, with lockdown rules / mask wearing / covid vaccine vibes.

Definitely getting lockdown vibes from threads like this one.
All those people gleefully telling others their children will have to fight and there’s no way out of it remind me if those who were saying another lockdown was surely coming soon, even after the very last one.
Some people just seem to enjoy winding others up.

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow yes they did hence the distraction of conscription now

I agree with @Naptrappedmummy it’s unlikely

But same reaction to some of these posts

The only thing we're being primed for is to be grateful little flag-wavers for increased military spending while we can't afford butter.

Yes, but women won’t be conscripted for combat roles anyway. That hasn’t even happened in Ukraine

well actually, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have issued a statement saying, “All medical women, these are doctors, nurses, dentists, midwives, pharmacists, ages 18 to 60, will be required to register for military service starting October 1,” (of last year). This applies to 100 other professions - but not a blanket call for conscription of women (as has erroneously been reported). But no, women are not entirely exempt, 'even' in the Ukraine

@EasternStandard

Did you mean to direct that at me?

if so, why??

Women are conscripted in Israel and are on the front line (pre the war on Gaza)

It's a load of bollocks. Sunaks popularity is down the drain and he's hoping a war will boost his chances in the up coming election.

Hence the war talk. He's a twat.

If Trump becomes the next US president he is threatening to pull America out of NATO and would not support the UK in the event of threat from Russia. So we will lose our biggest ally. Trump has won the New Hampshire primary so it’s a distinct possibility.

Switzerland has mandatory military description for men!

Important to point out, I think, that he was a twat before the war talk too !!

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Okay. So if we did leave NATO, what happens when Russian ships turn up to stalk British waters as a blatant act of provocation, which they've done before now, what do we do? We won't have any NATO allies to help us get them to back off, it'll be up to us to handle”

I imagine we would use our airforce and navy much as we are in the waters off of Yemen atm. I don’t see other NATO forces other than the US rushing to take part there, so I’m not sure why we would expect them, with the possible exception of France, to rush to our aid in those circumstances?

This is all pure speculation, anyway. Do you really think the Russian forces are in any fit state to engage in a major war elsewhere in Europe? Their machine and Human Resources are severely depleted. Much of the equipment was already outdated prior to the invasion of Ukraine. Morale amongst forces and the population is low. Tens, if not hundreds of thousands, no-one actually knows because The Kremlin won’t say, obviously, of young men fled to avoid conscription. All those who could have been, have been and are being sent home in body bags in their thousands. Where are the equipment/troops Putin would need to launch a land invasion on the UK going to come from? Resistance is really beginning to be heard more widely in Russia, now. Brave people are feeling more confident in putting their heads above the parapet now to publicly question and object, mostly mothers of dead soldiers as is often the case. Of course as some have said on this thread, he could engage his nuclear armaments. In all likelihood, they would be shot down before they left Russian skies.

Putin too is an old man, despite his calendars and Botox. I hope it won’t be too long before nature takes its course (or someone with sense in the Kremlin intervenes).