I have fucked up badly

[Shamefullhouse]

Omg I have Been find 400 for for tipping 250 if I pay within 10 days .

This would have been during in my time of struggling badly with my house and the state it was in my bins getting over full and really struggling with everything really badly.

I know I should not have done it but I was struggling. As far as I know they are talking about a couple of bits I took to the communal bins . ( they don't belong to me house) but to the flats behinde me. I couldn't get the bits in the bin. So I left them next to the bin. They would have been bits of wood from a unit i think .

I doubt that very much

Lesson learned OP. You're in the wrong here so just suck it up and don't do it again.

I think you take the piss. Bet you wished you paid for a clearance company now.

The point is, you don't even live in the bloody flats.
I think you've massively taken the piss and deserve the fine.
Figure out how to get your own rubbish sorted in future instead of relying on other people to pay for it.
The residents in those flats probably get it all the time.
When I lived in a flat I'd get letters constantly about people fly tipping and charges were apportioned to all of the tenants, which was annoying because there often wasn't room for our own rubbish, then we also faced fines.

So the cardboard wasn't in a bin? - fly tipped.

The wood wasn't in a bin? - fly tipped.

The Christmas tree doesn't look like it would fully fit inside a bin, so I doubt it wasn't also fly tipped.

If some of it was stored in your garden, why not all of it?

Tbf that looks absolutely awful. Ask for a payment plan on Monday.

I’m not quite clear, are you stating the carpets and pieces of wood were not yours but they had been dumped elsewhere by someone else and instead of reporting Flytipping you placed them by the bins and have been accused of tipping yourself?

We were overrun by rodents when there was a lot of fly tipping round here. They caught the cunts and fined them all. Not had a problem since.

And so you should be fined! Fly tipping is a massive issue.

I'm not saying I should not pay it I have not said that at all . I had not realised thete is an a email I can write to if I have problems paying so I will do that.

I'm just a bit upset that environmental have emptied it all over the floor etc. And then said you did that. When in fact it was all inside the big box. Tje other stuff was in the actual bin. I should not have out the white bits of wood there.

How can I fly tip my own front garden? I'm hoping they can't take mire pics of my garden because i can't afford to get that taken judt now.

No excuse I get that . And I get that I was extremely selfish. But I was trying to make things better in the house. Life has been awful for a very long time.

My own son has been physically violent to me. He's bigger than me. This went on for a long time also smashing my house up on lots of occasions. It's been awful. Things that my younger children witnessed and had to live with . There's been times I have not bedn able to bath/shower for weeks on end because I have been to scared to leave the room.

My son also tried to kill himself.

My grandson was almost put onto care due to my daughter suffering DV my side of the family and her had to be moved fast under life in danger because of her ex . He's in prison now .

There lots of stuff I have not added. But its been hell there's been times I wounder if my kids are better without me. Logically I know that's not true . But it just felt it .

Things have started to get better . Hence getting the house sorted. Trying to make it into a better home a nice place to be etc. It's never Been just about the house it ran deeper than that.

I understand that does not make it ok I know what I done was wrong I get that .

I'm going to back of from the thread. I should never have made it.

Selfish people so often get away with it. It’s refreshing to see them get their comeuppance sometimes.
Pay the fine and don’t do it again.

I'm glad you're in a better place now, OP. It does sound really tough.

I appreciate things have been hard, but a lot of people have it hard.

Grow up.
Take responsibility.
Pay the fine.
Learn from this.

There are probably more photos of how they found it. Others may have moved stuff around too.

It's probably a condition of your tenancy to not dump shit in your garden. And none of your additional detail/derail is relevant to the fact that you flytipped crap from your house into tenants' communal spaces, hence the small fine (compared to prosecution, the full extent of the penalties and what could happen in terms of your tenancy if they choose to take further action).

If you're that bothered by the mess they made then go pick it up and sort it. They pay your fine, and don't fly tip again

Our council has taken away half the litter bins on our side of town because of this type of thing.
I wish they'd been able to catch and fine the people responsible.

Exactly, the reason for not leaving stuff by the bins is that other folk, kids or folk bin-raking, throw the stuff around.

That's a lot of crap to dump and thinking it will be sorted out by someone else. Frankly speaking you sound like a mess and I have zero sympathy. A lot of people have it hard. You're an adult, take responsibility.

I live in a flat and had to pay £45 to the council to pick up a bed and some carpet, yet people still think it's OK to leave stuff by the bins. Yes, it is a big fine, but you won't do it again.

Fly tipping costs the council thousands of pounds to clear up. This is money that could be spent on social care services etc. Selfish people that fly tip do not care about this waste of tax payers money. I see why they assumed you'd tipped the whole lot. And if you tipped you tipped it doesnt really matter the amount.

You may also need to stop using other people's bins.

You can call the council and arrange for them to collect bulky waste instead of tipping. You can use the council recycling sites.
No excuse really.

But I hope you can arrange a payment plan for installments. Good luck with that. Hope things improve for you.

Phone them up, apologies profusely, say hat you don’t have the money at the moment and you are struggling financially and ask them if there is anyway that the fine can be reduced
If you get through to a nice person they may be willing to negotiate

Lots of people have shit going on in their lives and they still manage not to fly tip. I expect that now you've been fined you won't do it again.

Slight derail but I often find a few minutes to flatten boxes and if need be cut them up smaller means I can shove flattened panels done the side of inside recycling bin. Hi then ram bottles bottom up down corners and stack . Everything else is squashed or flattened as much as poss and I can fit looooads in my bin. Kind of like jenga. I'm a bit OCD about it and get cross when DH or DD just Chuck stuff in Willy nilly and mess my system up. In fact I've Ben know. To take stuff out to do it again properly

But you could absolutely make those boxes smaller

I work for a local council, for a team that gets sent out to pick up fly-tipping. Do you realise that this type of fly-tipping is classed as a fire risk?

Do you realise that in some areas this type of fly-tipping can get set alight, intentionally or accidentally. Its immediately next to where people live.

My teams get pulled off their normal rounds to collect fly-tipping from council flats. its a serious issue.

The teams then have to take the fly-tipping to the baling plant. The baling plant then charge back to us based on the weight.

This uses up our budget - councils only have limited budgets, but they are not allowed to ignore fire risks. so we go over budget.

Then people like yourself will complain that the councils spend the money badly!

I dont buy your excuses - there are lots of adverts on facebook etc offering to collect rubbish.

On some of our estates we have single mums paying a couple of pounds for people to take away black bags of rubbish as they are unable to do it themselves with a small child. A shocking sign of the times - but they are trying really hard to keep tidy and on top of things.