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I have fucked up badly

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Shamefullhouse · 20/01/2024 11:44

Omg I have Been find 400 for for tipping 250 if I pay within 10 days .

This would have been during in my time of struggling badly with my house and the state it was in my bins getting over full and really struggling with everything really badly.

I know I should not have done it but I was struggling. As far as I know they are talking about a couple of bits I took to the communal bins . ( they don't belong to me house) but to the flats behinde me. I couldn't get the bits in the bin. So I left them next to the bin. They would have been bits of wood from a unit i think .

OP posts:
candaby653 · 20/01/2024 13:02

janicegarvey · 20/01/2024 12:52

Oh my god I've done this times 😳😳

We're a family of 5 and our bin is tiny and they only collect fortnightly . We honestly recycle as much as humanly possible but still end up with them both full before collection - Our council is absolutely shit

So we've got two communal bins on a green near our house and I wait til it's dark and get rid of a couple of small bin bags

On a side note - how sad and pathetic would someone need to be to take pics and grass you up. Some people have absolutely no lives

Well they pay council tax the same as you. Imagine if your neighbour borrowed some of your bin space as they thought they needed it more

MooseAndSquirrelLoveFlannel · 20/01/2024 13:04

Did you really think the bin men would take the Christmas tree though? Or did you just think out of sight, out of mind.....someone else's problem now. The same with the wood? Did you honestly expect the bin men would take it?

If you did, you're kidding yourself. If you didn't then the fine is well deserved as it is a clear cut case of fly tipping!

Toddlerteaplease · 20/01/2024 13:04

That's an awful lot of rubbish you dumped.

grumpypedestrian · 20/01/2024 13:05

The fine seems excessive but the wood wouldn’t have been collected anyway. At the very least I would have used a saw to make the bits smaller, then kept it in the house till your bins were emptied.

If you don’t drive then pay for a bulky waste collection. What you did was wrong and I agree with being fined, but maybe not that much. Hopefully this is a wake up call to get rid of your waste properly.

Toddlerteaplease · 20/01/2024 13:05

We have a fly tipping problem on my road. And it's so annoying.

Chris002 · 20/01/2024 13:05

Jellybean85 · 20/01/2024 12:25

In fairness a good amount of that crap was yours even if not all of it. You've admitted you fly tipped. As someone who's street and garden used to get fly tipped at an old address it's miserable. Really made me feel crappy and worthless and we got rats. People don't realise the effect and it drags down an area.

You were struggling and you did something selfish. It sounds like you're in a much more positive place now and will learn from it and move on.

It's a shame they won't let you pay in instalments. Is it from local council? I would phone then and ask for an option to pay in smaller amounts.
Don't ignore it though they can take you to court!

Also another knock on effect - if the flats are privately owned then the management company have to pay to have the extra rubbish removed - in our block they have cctv to catch flat owners and tenants that put large items out - if it is someone in the block then the flat will be fined but if it is someone like OP and they are can't recoup the money through a fine then the management company of the block either raise the services charges for the flat owners !
Or they reduce the normal bin collection days with the council which means the flat owners and tenants can't put their rubbish out cos the bins are full !

MythosK · 20/01/2024 13:06

The Fire Service was called to our street yesterday because the alley beside their house had loads of stuff dumped, similar to the photos, then somebody set it all alight. Luckily it hadn't spread to their house.

Fire Service were there for 4 hours. That's going to cost a lot of money.

Theyarehere · 20/01/2024 13:06

Is this Real? That’s not a few bits you’ve dumped is it? Everyone else seems to manage to dispose of rubbish correctly.

Autumn1990 · 20/01/2024 13:06

janicegarvey · 20/01/2024 12:52

Oh my god I've done this times 😳😳

We're a family of 5 and our bin is tiny and they only collect fortnightly . We honestly recycle as much as humanly possible but still end up with them both full before collection - Our council is absolutely shit

So we've got two communal bins on a green near our house and I wait til it's dark and get rid of a couple of small bin bags

On a side note - how sad and pathetic would someone need to be to take pics and grass you up. Some people have absolutely no lives

You can get a private bin collection in addition to your council bin collection. Weekly, fortnightly or monthly. I have a fortnightly one and if necessary I can ring up and get an extra collection. They also take anything piled up next to the bin, obviously this costs a bit extra.
It’s £12 a fortnight and I bet it’s cheaper in an urban area. I use a trade waste company but you don’t need to have a business.

Balloonhearts · 20/01/2024 13:06

It's a fine. It's not supposed to be affordable, that's the point. You should've hired someone to take it to the tip, you can pay the council to collect large or heavy items. Why should the people whose bins you dumped your crap in have to pay to have it removed?

You chose to commit a crime, you got caught, now you have a massive fine to pay. Its tough but you chose to take the risk. If you can't afford to pay fines, don't fly tip.

Rockandgrohl · 20/01/2024 13:07

No excuse for the wood at all. Plus you don’t seem to think the cardboard is an issue, but it’s a bloody nightmare when anyone leaves cardboard next to bins rather than inside them, because as soon as it rains it turns to horrible mush.
We have a massive problem with this at our local recycling bins at our village hall…the committee report for fly tipping every time, why should someone spend their time cleaning it up, when the person wo dumped it was too lazy to take it elsewhere. If the bins are full you should of taken it somewhere else or taken it home.

grumpypedestrian · 20/01/2024 13:08

Since supermarkets have started collecting soft plastic recycling our non recycling bin barely needs collecting anymore. Just ask for the actual bin bags they use rather than taking small amounts, it’s what we do.

Ramalangadingdong · 20/01/2024 13:08

It looks really awful. It wouldn’t surprise me if you were reported by one of your neighbours who are fed up of the situation.

Halfemptyhalfling · 20/01/2024 13:09

How much would a man with a van cost to take the stuff to the tip (assume you don't have your own transport). Perhaps ask council if there is a cheap way to get extra stuff taken if you need to in future ( I'm not sure that there is,)

Silverbirchtwo · 20/01/2024 13:10

Seems people think it's fine to dump their junk anywhere these days. It's so horrible to see piles of rubbish just dumped. Whenever I see it I hope someone will get fined for it. It costs a lot to send people and vehicles out to pick up all the cr*p and councils are really strapped for cash these days.

EdithStourton · 20/01/2024 13:11

Limited sympathy here. I live fairly rurally and fly-tipping is an absolute blight.

It costs a small fortune to clear it up, as well.

WinterBerry7 · 20/01/2024 13:11

janicegarvey · 20/01/2024 12:52

Oh my god I've done this times 😳😳

We're a family of 5 and our bin is tiny and they only collect fortnightly . We honestly recycle as much as humanly possible but still end up with them both full before collection - Our council is absolutely shit

So we've got two communal bins on a green near our house and I wait til it's dark and get rid of a couple of small bin bags

On a side note - how sad and pathetic would someone need to be to take pics and grass you up. Some people have absolutely no lives

When I’m getting charged extra for private refuse collection on top of my already expensive service charge because someone thinks it’s ok to come and dump their shit on the floor in my communal bin store, you can bet I’m sending over any evidence I have that it wasn’t done by a resident.

SweetBirdsong · 20/01/2024 13:11

You're lucky it wasn't more. It's up to £5000 in my borough for flytipping. Flytippers are the bane of society though, so they deserve every penny of their fine.

Not saying this applies to you though @Shamefullhouse and I am sure you WERE struggling at the time. And it seems odd to fine someone who has crap lying outside their house/garden would be fined. Surely the council could just knock on the door and ask them to shift it?! IMO, fines should only be aimed at those who dump crap in laybys etc (usually in the countryside where there is no cctv) and fuck off and leave it.

Hilariously, this one farmer near me got sick of crap being dumped in the layby by his farm gate, that he installed a camera in the bushes about 3 ft from the ground. Caught SEVEN different people flytipping in 3 days! All have been fined between 3 and 5 grand!

As I said, you are lucky yours is so low. 😬 The crap lying around does look bad, and saying they have made it look worse is sounding a bit like you are making excuses now (sorry...) Just pay the £250, and learn from this, and move on. If you can't afford it, ask to pay in installments. Or pay it and then appeal it if you feel it's unfair.

Good luck!

LIZS · 20/01/2024 13:12

If the address was not for the flats then it does not matter who may have said it was ok, you are not entitled to use the bins. By all means go back and state what was yours but I doubt it will reduce the fine. Ask to pay in installments.

CheshireCat1 · 20/01/2024 13:12

Do the crime, pay the fine.

janicegarvey · 20/01/2024 13:13

@Name081

I don't and would never dump rubbish - it's a couple of bags every so often that i put INSIDE a bin that never gets full anyway

Not my fault the council are tight with bins

And If other people do it too (and I wouldn't be surprised) then good luck to them I can't get wound up about it 🤷‍♀️

NeverDropYourMooncup · 20/01/2024 13:14

Shamefullhouse · 20/01/2024 12:43

I know I get that the pictures are not what they seem though. Environmental have pulled stuff out of the bins and made the photos look worse the only thing bi can see totally clearly I done wrong was the white bits of wood .

The big card board Box had all the smaller bits of card inside Environmental have tipped it outturn taken a photos . The Xmas tree grey Box was in the actual bin. The pic with the greeny bag and broken head board is in my own garden.

I get what quotes saying 250 vs cost of collection. But its 60.00 for 3 items . I don't get how that works really its confusing its not like I had say a bed, chest of drawers and a coffee table. It was stuff. The tip I have no way of getting to

Where do the people who actually live there get to put their normal, domestic waste if it's full up and overflowing with other people's shit, including broken furniture?

Flytipping is an offence. You committed an offence, so you've been fined fair and square.

CJsGoldfish · 20/01/2024 13:14

If you thought it was ok to do, wouldn't you have just put it next to your OWN bin rather than go to the effort of placing it somewhere away from your bin?

You gambled, were caught and are now seeking to what? Get out of facing the consequence of your own actions? 🙄

janicegarvey · 20/01/2024 13:15

@candaby653

If I had space they'd be absolutely welcome to if they needed to

FuckingHellAdele · 20/01/2024 13:15

janicegarvey · 20/01/2024 13:13

@Name081

I don't and would never dump rubbish - it's a couple of bags every so often that i put INSIDE a bin that never gets full anyway

Not my fault the council are tight with bins

And If other people do it too (and I wouldn't be surprised) then good luck to them I can't get wound up about it 🤷‍♀️

So you haven't done what the OP did then, hers was not put inside a bin.

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