Amanda and Giovanni

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Apologies if there is already a thread but I couldn’t find one. What on earth has gone on between Amanda Abbington and Giovanni Pernice during Strictly?AA is apparently taking legal action against the BBC claiming she has PTSD.

Well you're wrong.

No one has accused anyone. She has requested rehearsal footage.

Yep.

Fucking hell. I have never watched Strictly in my life but the level of ignorance about PTSD is ridiculous.

Broadly speaking there are two forms of PTSD. The first is the generally known form of it where someone has undergone a major traumatic event. So for example my ex who waa randomly attacked with a machete.

The other is C-PTSD. This is when people undergo ongoing abuse and trauma. I have this due to a past relationship.

As I said I have no clue about the show or relationship between rhe two dancers but it's not outside the realms of possibility that she has C-PTSD if he's consistently treated her badly.

You know him personally then?

Aaaaaaand there it is.

That awful term snowflake.

Hurled at anyone who declares an issue with MH from the same people who put "Be Kind" all over their SM.

An insightful and measured response. 👌

Ah we have a mental health consultant here who knows Amanda and what her diagnosis is about.

No?

In terms of PTSD, can be caused by any type of traumatic experience, but typically these will be things like involved in a life threatening incident like an accident, war, or rape/sexual assault, or witnessing something horrible happening to someone.
Technically dancing with a v strict or mean professional in a competition for a lot of money and publicity I guess could make you feel traumatised and result in symptoms of ptsd, but without wanting to sound too harsh, if you’re the sort of person who might be traumatised by that sort of experience I feel like you’d know that about yourself and avoid it?

exactly - lets not normalise this when veterans who have witnessed horrors of war and their lives will never be the same again are the ones with PTSD.

@JayAlfredPrufrock

There may be physical or sexual assault. No one on this forum knows.

Just to remind everyone that she is an actress and he is a performer and Strictly is an entertainment programme and we may never know what actually happened,.

But that's far too sane and sensible!

People dislike her so they've already judged. And name called. A potential victim.

What a world we live in.

The term "PTSD" is used rather loosely culturally and in the media, not to refer to an actual clinical condition. But the actual medical definition (in ICD-11, the WHO's classification, which is also generally the definition used in a legal context, which may be pertinent here as there is talk of civil action) requires there to be a trauma "of an extremely threatening or horrific nature. Such events include, but are not limited to, directly experiencing natural or human-made disasters, combat, serious accidents, torture, sexual violence, terrorism, assault or acute life-threatening illness (e.g., a heart attack); witnessing the threatened or actual injury or death of others in a sudden, unexpected, or violent manner; and learning about the sudden, unexpected or violent death of a loved one".

@ATerrorofLeftovers

What are your qualifications to make that declaration?

they start strictly training 3 months before the shows dont they?

Exactly.

Well if a woman on a bus and most of Mumsnet think she's a snowflake out for a meal ticket who can't possibly have PTSD, that's clearly case closed.

Good grief.

I don't find it that hard to believe Giovanni isn't a very nice person, he could barely hide his contempt for Ritchie last year which seemed mean spirited of him, especially as Ritchie was a super-fan of the show and obviously on cloud 9 to be there. I felt like he ended up having a rubbish experience due to Giovanni

But obviously innocent until proved guilty, likewise if Amanda feels there is a case to hear then it should be looked into, and it's definitely possible to have PTSD from workplace bully - it can be soul destroying

I don't believe she has ptsd. I do & it's not something to be said lightly. She may be slightly traumatised by her experience but ptsd? Definitely not!

Would the camera crew not say something

how many weeks was she on the show, she left in october?

Wow. What horrible posts. People really shouldn’t make these sweeping judgements and statements without knowing the facts. I am shocked.

Reminds me of the Roxanne Pallett CBB thing ie all in her head and I'm worried it'll backfire on Giovanni.