Amanda and Giovanni

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Apologies if there is already a thread but I couldn’t find one. What on earth has gone on between Amanda Abbington and Giovanni Pernice during Strictly?AA is apparently taking legal action against the BBC claiming she has PTSD.

Amanda hardly seems like a lightweight character. I don’t think she would be making a fuss over just some ‘bossy’ teaching. Giovanni might have been lovely with Rose due to her hearing loss. We don’t know. It’s a sad situation all round and horribly in the public eye for all involved

Absolutely those things can be highly traumatic. Not necessarily PTSD though. But people shouldn’t be made to feel their suffering is being trivialised if it doesn’t fall within the PTSD definition. They are not necessarily not serious if they don’t.

Wasn’t the Laura Whitmore situation exacerbated by her being partnered with Giovanni soon after his relationship with Georgia May Foote had ended? Laura and Georgia knew each other, I believe.

4 of his partners have had a problem with him. I think everyone is also forgetting strictly is an entertainment show, its not life or death. No one should be bullied to do well, or do 8hr training days with no food or go home everyday crying.

If she's suing I'm guessing she's got some evidence to support a diagnosis.

Tbf he is not the only one contestants have moaned about. Fern Britten complained about Russian pro (Artem Chigvintsev) and Lulu & Brendon Cole did not get on at all.

it happens- these dancers are competitive, their livelihood depends on it and they get paid much less than the ‘celebs’ (using that term
loosely). Some can see the bigger picture, some cannot.

8 hour training days with no food?
Is that what she's claiming?

@ATerrorofLeftovers the NHS doesn't limit PTSD to death - it says

Any situation that a person finds traumatic can cause PTSD

and cites some examples which aren't exclusively related to death.

My understanding (as someone who has it, although mine is related to witnessing a death) PTSD (as defined legally and medically) can also be triggered by serious injury and sexual violation.

Ranvir fancied the pants off him. I remember every time she was interviewed she wouldn’t deny their was something going on between them, even though there definitely wasn’t. She loved all the speculation! She was all over him whenever they were papped outside of the studio.

Or... she knows there is something on there and wands her lawyers to see it.

She's been having counselling apparently, I would imagine that is where the diagnosis has come from.

Watching people die violent deaths, that sort of thing, that's what I think of as PTSD...

Been there. Seen it. Done it.

However the thing that made me pray never to wake up again and came closest to permanently breaking me was a workplace bully.

Even after everything in my previous career. Even after being left for dead by my ex. Even after a deeply traumatic event a few years ago.

We should reserve judgement until the whole story comes out.

What is unfair to do is to dismiss and minimalise AA’s feelings - or indeed question any condition.

Wow, that's awful.
AA should be applauded for seeing it through so he stops getting away with what is clearly unacceptable behaviour.

A lot of misunderstanding of PTSD on this thread.

I'm glad it is being investigated.

So workspace bullying is acceptable and people need to suck it up otherwise they're a snowflake?
FFS.

If the story is true which is unclear . …She’s pretty brave. She will get a rep as a troublemaker and - possibly - won’t pick up much work in future. She’ll need a big payoff to mitigate that. Presumably her lawyer is confident of getting it for her.

Well, there should be enough footage of rehearsals. I always enjoyed watching that, and the interviews on ITT. Amanda did insist that they got on and all was ok, but clearly it wasn't.

Surely if there is footage someone at the BBC would have picked up on her being bullied and beaten.

The legendary Martha Graham would slap her dancers and could get violent if they enraged her with sloppy posture. Her dancers used to leave the stage filled with terror!

In which case, I would feel a lot more comfortable without her team (presumably) spreading bits of gossip around the media to cause maximum discomfort to Giovanni and the BBC. He has said nothing untoward, not tried to defend himself or put put a foot out of place (as far as I can see). So everything has to be coming from her - and, if so, how serious can your PTSD be if you are pushing it to the media every day? Genuine question, not having suffered from PTSD as far as I know.

@ArcaneWireless 💐
I'm glad you got through to the other side. That's absolutely toxic.

That's appalling.
I haven't seen her claim that Gio beat her though, to be fair.

The more likely outcome will be that the BBC will just get rid of Gio..

If Amanda is asking for the footage from the training room, she must be attributing her PTSD to the training and Giovanni’s methods of doing so. Since it’s all filmed and any of it could be broadcast, surely he’d be unwise to allow things to be filmed that would show him as a bully or contributing to her distress.

If she has a diagnosis, something has happened to cause it, but Giovanni can wave goodbye to his career if proven. I’ve never been a particular fan of his and I think he’s very driven, but why sabotage your career? I don’t think Amanda was a good fit for him or for the show.

I wish people would stop bloody speculating.