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Thread 34 Sunak - the Circus is back in Westminster

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DuncinToffee · 12/12/2023 13:36

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Notonthestairs · 29/12/2023 11:10

Boris Johnson says his meeting on 19 March 2020 with Evening Standard owner Evgeny Lebedev - who was to become Lord Lebedev in July 2020 - “must have been” about Covid, though he can’t actually remember what it was about

x.com/peston/status/1732408996248891534?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

6/12/23

Amazingly no notes of the meeting(s) exist.

Notonthestairs · 29/12/2023 11:15

Piggywaspushed · 29/12/2023 11:03

Another Tory MP blessed with articulate and thoughtful contributions to national discourse.

James Daly was a criminal defence lawyer - wonder what clients he's represented.

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DuncinToffee · 29/12/2023 11:16

Brexit wouldn't have happened without Murdoch

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DuncinToffee · 29/12/2023 11:20

Notonthestairs · 29/12/2023 11:15

Another Tory MP blessed with articulate and thoughtful contributions to national discourse.

James Daly was a criminal defence lawyer - wonder what clients he's represented.

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Mr Daly is a member of the 'New Conservative' group, which includes the likes of Lee Anderson, Jonathan Gullis, Danny Kruger and Miriam Cates.

Who was the the one that claimed parents would use free school meal money on prostirutes, Gullis?

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DuncinToffee · 29/12/2023 11:32

IClaudine · 29/12/2023 11:02

Two anti-Starmer threads running in Politics at the moment. I am convinced now that there will be a May GE.

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I just looked at those threads, they are a bit desperate and half hearted Xmas Grin

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DuncinToffee · 29/12/2023 11:36

Miriam Cates latest attack, on free child care this time (her tweet in link)

https://x.com/LiamThorpECHO/status/1740667153790247332?s=20

What a truly deranged way to talk about a plan to extend free childcare

Are the Tories planning a huge extension to paid maternity/paternity leave then?

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Piggywaspushed · 29/12/2023 11:37

There's a MN script prattled out by some of the familiar names. I often think they don't know anything themselves about gender critical issues /Starmer's views/Labour policies but are literally just spouting MN lines for the feeling of approval and cleverness.

Piggywaspushed · 29/12/2023 11:38

DuncinToffee · 29/12/2023 11:20

Mr Daly is a member of the 'New Conservative' group, which includes the likes of Lee Anderson, Jonathan Gullis, Danny Kruger and Miriam Cates.

Who was the the one that claimed parents would use free school meal money on prostirutes, Gullis?

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I think that was Ben Bradley.

Notonthestairs · 29/12/2023 11:45

Of course living costs have dramatically dropped in the last decade especially housing - nobody needs 2 incomes.

I'm guessing Cates/Keuger etc don't have to worry about their mortgages.

BIossomtoes · 29/12/2023 11:46

I see Cates is so sure of her opinions that she limits responses on X to those who agree with her.

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DuncinToffee · 29/12/2023 11:46

Ben Bradley, thanks.

Just looked him up and he is still at it, he claimed in a September meeting that London's free school meals programme was funded by the controversial ULEZ scheme.

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Notonthestairs · 29/12/2023 11:47

When desperation to retain seats drives policy making rather than long term vision -

New: Who would benefit most from slashing inheritance tax?

We dug into the figures, which show that 75% of the top 60 seats for IHT receipts are held by Conservative MPs.

Halving the rate or abolishing the tax entirely would, some Tories hope, help mobilise traditional voters in "blue wall" seats - including some (southern) maginals.

With @GeriEL_Scott:

x.com/breeallegretti/status/1740677452853080183?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

BIossomtoes · 29/12/2023 11:57

I don’t think hanging on to 45 seats is going to help them much, even if it works.

Notonthestairs · 29/12/2023 12:06

Well as they seem to like supermarket branding - Every little helps!

newnamethanks · 29/12/2023 12:15

Crap MPs have contributed to, and caused, many parents to struggle, intentionally so. How have we managed to gather so many crap MPs in one place? So many who have such a distorted view of society and believe it to be a good thing? I blame the parents. I'd be embarassed to own any of them.

Elodie09 · 29/12/2023 12:35

@newnamethanks Danny Kruger belongs to Prue Leith I think.

newnamethanks · 29/12/2023 12:42

Clear evidence that the capability to knock up a lovely Victoria Sponge is not necessarily an indicator of how your kids will turn out. I expect she loves him. She's welcome to him.

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DuncinToffee · 29/12/2023 12:52

He is another Eton mess.

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itsgettingweird · 29/12/2023 14:20

DuncinToffee · 29/12/2023 12:52

He is another Eton mess.

😂😂

I agree the number of "let's diss Starmer" threads turning up is a good indication of May GE.

I also noted this morning a story has broken that Blair considered offshore immigration measures.

It was pointed out that considering, discussing and doing are not the same thing!

Piggywaspushed · 29/12/2023 14:22

Blair also bizarrely wanted Wimbledon football club to relocate to Belfast. Mo Mowlam did not concur.

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DuncinToffee · 29/12/2023 14:50

I heard that Wimbledon story on the car radio and thought it must be an ultra slow news day Grin

The immigration brainstorming resulted in the Blair government automatically granting asylum to those they knew were going to receive it anyway.

Unlike the Tories, they knew when an idea was batshit and binned it.

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SutWytTi · 29/12/2023 15:10

Notonthestairs · 29/12/2023 11:47

When desperation to retain seats drives policy making rather than long term vision -

New: Who would benefit most from slashing inheritance tax?

We dug into the figures, which show that 75% of the top 60 seats for IHT receipts are held by Conservative MPs.

Halving the rate or abolishing the tax entirely would, some Tories hope, help mobilise traditional voters in "blue wall" seats - including some (southern) maginals.

With @GeriEL_Scott:

x.com/breeallegretti/status/1740677452853080183?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

The issue for them is do they try to save blue wall or red wall seats?

The IHT policy may play well in blue wall, but it plays badly in red wall.

Post Brexit, how do they hold these two groups of seats?

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Zonder · 29/12/2023 16:33

DuncinToffee · 29/12/2023 15:11

“British households will, for the first time on record, be poorer at the end of a parliament than at its start.”

Damning finding of 13 years of Conservative government.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/dec/29/only-top-half-of-uk-earners-to-benefit-from-lower-ni-payments-thinktank-warns?

And yet some people.will STILL vote Tory!