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What is one hill you will die on?

833 replies

whitetip · 03/12/2023 12:59

One opinion that you have that will never waver, no matter what?..

OP posts:
Pizdietz · 05/12/2023 17:42

housethatbuiltme · 05/12/2023 17:41

Well my best friend is a ODP and makes under £35k a year where as I have family who are lorry drivers who make over £35k here in the UK.

I think both jobs are equally needed in society. Without transport of goods things would cease to function (even hospitals) and with surgery people will die. Neither are glamorous or easy but for very different reasons.

Yes, absolutely! I didn't mean to say both weren't equally important. It's just that back then, as a surgeon in Russia, he earned really crap money (I can't remember how bad, but it was like a kind of punishment for being clever!).

Glipsy · 05/12/2023 17:52

I know what people mean about the trans stuff being overwhelming. But over time I’ve decided it’s a problem that will solve itself as some of the posts in this thread and all the others are so extreme that I actually reckon it’ll do more to help than any argument I could make. After all, anything I say will just get the mansplainy ‘prove it to us with absolute confidence’ ‘answer this one simple question’ stuff that I got fed up with on forums in 1999

eardefender · 05/12/2023 18:02

Malarandras · 05/12/2023 17:03

Pineapple does not belong on pizza. Under any circumstances.

hey c'mon now lets keep this decent and polite

ZebraDanios · 05/12/2023 18:06

Re: lorry drivers and surgeons - I guess there are two points here:

  1. both those jobs are really are needed, whereas plenty of very well-paid jobs could literally not exist and we’d barely even notice
  2. I can’t imagine either of those jobs is particularly easy or enjoyable - but many well-paid jobs are not especially taxing or, as a PP pointed out, are someone essentially being paid to do their hobby
ukgot2pot · 05/12/2023 18:10

Exercise is the best medicine. Bite me.

Desecratedcoconut · 05/12/2023 18:14

ukgot2pot · 05/12/2023 18:10

Exercise is the best medicine. Bite me.

Okay, but if it gets infected you'll need antibiotics, not a jog around the block

category12 · 05/12/2023 18:18

Desecratedcoconut · 05/12/2023 18:14

Okay, but if it gets infected you'll need antibiotics, not a jog around the block

😂😂

Terfosaurus · 05/12/2023 18:19

ukgot2pot · 05/12/2023 18:10

Exercise is the best medicine. Bite me.

The best medicine for what?

ukgot2pot · 05/12/2023 18:26

Let me rephrase it. 'Exercise is the best medicine for mental health'.

mantyzer · 05/12/2023 18:27

Exercise is very good for depression. It does nothing for psychosis.

CrapGoat · 05/12/2023 18:43

I read somewhere that exercise can only have more than a very mild effect on about 30% of the population, some people don't benefit all so much from it. I wish I could remember where!
I've rarely had periods in my life where I dont exercise. I have noticed in my lowest periods, the tears would come out while I was running or walking, more so than any other time. Arguably one could say that's my body processing things. You could also say I'd be better off doing something else that boosted my mood rather than induced me having depression symptoms (crying) such as talking to a friend, watching a funny programme etc.

LylaLee · 05/12/2023 18:47

funbags3 · 03/12/2023 15:59

Baked beans are the Devil's food.

What's wrong with baked beans?

ZebraDanios · 05/12/2023 19:05

CrapGoat · 05/12/2023 18:43

I read somewhere that exercise can only have more than a very mild effect on about 30% of the population, some people don't benefit all so much from it. I wish I could remember where!
I've rarely had periods in my life where I dont exercise. I have noticed in my lowest periods, the tears would come out while I was running or walking, more so than any other time. Arguably one could say that's my body processing things. You could also say I'd be better off doing something else that boosted my mood rather than induced me having depression symptoms (crying) such as talking to a friend, watching a funny programme etc.

That’s really interesting - I violently dislike exercise and cannot get my head round how anyone finds it enjoyable.

A friend told me once that she went running as a kind of therapy - she said she temporarily forgot all her other problems because she was focusing so hard on how much she was hating running…

CrapGoat · 05/12/2023 19:20

I tend to be a cynic and think that the government promotes this 'Exercise helps mental health' thing to make people blame themselves for how crap eveyrthing is, rather than blaming the situations a lot of us are in with COL crisis, state of the NHS, state of life generally etc etc. Plus if we all get going with exercise, they have to spend less on illnesses etc (maybe not if it is the type of exercise that could result in injury i.e all of them)!
But yes, I tend to agree that it doesn't necessarily work for everyone. Nothing else does, why would that?
Maybe very temporarily and/or very mildly but although I do exercise for physical health, I cannot say I feel it has much of an impact on me mentally. The ONLY thing that does is that I feel better when I have more muscle tone-but that's vanity rather than anything else! (@ZebraDanios & others)!

echt · 05/12/2023 19:40

CrapGoat · 05/12/2023 19:20

I tend to be a cynic and think that the government promotes this 'Exercise helps mental health' thing to make people blame themselves for how crap eveyrthing is, rather than blaming the situations a lot of us are in with COL crisis, state of the NHS, state of life generally etc etc. Plus if we all get going with exercise, they have to spend less on illnesses etc (maybe not if it is the type of exercise that could result in injury i.e all of them)!
But yes, I tend to agree that it doesn't necessarily work for everyone. Nothing else does, why would that?
Maybe very temporarily and/or very mildly but although I do exercise for physical health, I cannot say I feel it has much of an impact on me mentally. The ONLY thing that does is that I feel better when I have more muscle tone-but that's vanity rather than anything else! (@ZebraDanios & others)!

The science is in about exercise and mental health:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1470658/

Of course government want to save money, who wouldn't? As for looking at it as blaming the patient, a bit of a stretch. It's relatively cheap and beneficial too.

Your individual reactions to exercise are zip compared with data. The discounted vanity of your views about your improved muscle tone can also be interpreted as improved self-esteem - you've actually done something and got result.

Exercise for Mental Health

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1470658/

LylaLee · 05/12/2023 19:48

BIossomtoes · 03/12/2023 16:25

Nobody should ever hurt another sentient being deliberately. That covers pretty much all eventualities.

Who defines sentient? Dolphins, yes. Fish?

Rats? Nits?

Terfosaurus · 05/12/2023 19:54

JKR is a queen.

SpudleyLass · 05/12/2023 22:19

Shakeylegs · 03/12/2023 22:09

It’s partly as the poster above says, but mainly something more.

Over the last few decades we’ve correctly determined that some people had unequal opportunities. And we’ve correctly tried to address that. But to give certain people equal opportunities requires such effort and financial cost as to make it hard to justify. And whilst we often talk the talk, we don’t back it up with additional resources.

I am talking a little about the disruptive children in schools, but mainly really those who require substantial care and support. Our Councils are going bust, the services provided by them to millions are crumbling, because of the insanely high costs of caring for a tiny number.

Why should millions have their own experiences and opportunities blunted to support that tiny number?

Why are the majority any more deserving?

I would say at this point, education might be costing less to preserve it to those who require it most- ie, not those who are the majority.

May we kick out the neurotypical majority and save the country a fuck tonne by reserving education for the neurodivergent?

Naptrappedmummy · 05/12/2023 22:25

SpudleyLass · 05/12/2023 22:19

Why are the majority any more deserving?

I would say at this point, education might be costing less to preserve it to those who require it most- ie, not those who are the majority.

May we kick out the neurotypical majority and save the country a fuck tonne by reserving education for the neurodivergent?

Because there are more of them. It’s better for more people to be happy than less people. That’s how we have run society for many years - democracy and going with the majority view. Only, that’s starting to change now.

SpudleyLass · 05/12/2023 22:34

Naptrappedmummy · 05/12/2023 22:25

Because there are more of them. It’s better for more people to be happy than less people. That’s how we have run society for many years - democracy and going with the majority view. Only, that’s starting to change now.

Ok then be ableist and not fund the disabled children their educational rights.

Guess what happens?

They become dependent on the state because you refused to educate them at the time and end up costing the state more in housing, healthcare and unemployment.

It makes more sense to demand the majority of ''normal'' kids to stay home with one of their parents as they can access education anywhere and access socialisation anywhere.

Naptrappedmummy · 05/12/2023 22:36

Nobody mentioned the educational rights of disabled children?

SpudleyLass · 05/12/2023 22:38

Naptrappedmummy · 05/12/2023 22:36

Nobody mentioned the educational rights of disabled children?

Yes, they did. Read the comment I originally quoted.

SpudleyLass · 05/12/2023 22:42

Naptrappedmummy · 05/12/2023 22:36

Nobody mentioned the educational rights of disabled children?

I'm sick of the horseshit ableist UK.

My daughter has absolutely the potential to be as independent as her non disabled cousins, in the long term.

But guess what? Mainstream schools won't touch her with a barge pole. She's been out of school for a year and she is only 5.

Meanwhile, my mental health is deteriorating. The commentator I quoted is sniffing glue if they think doing things the way things have been done to our family is financially feasibl, in the long term for the country.

ZebraDanios · 05/12/2023 22:45

@echt I do accept that exercise benefits most people’s mental health, but I’m always interested in the viewpoint of people who exercise even though they don’t enjoy it, because most people who exercise LOVE it (to the point that for some people it’s basically their personality). So is exercise good for your mental health because doing anything you enjoy is good for your mental health, or is there something special about it (eg blood flow to the brain or something) that makes it good for your mental health even if you hate every moment you’re engaging in it?

(Edited to add that maybe I do actually know lots of people who exercise and don’t love it, but I just don’t know about it because they don’t bang on about it all the time)

Naptrappedmummy · 05/12/2023 22:47

SpudleyLass · 05/12/2023 22:42

I'm sick of the horseshit ableist UK.

My daughter has absolutely the potential to be as independent as her non disabled cousins, in the long term.

But guess what? Mainstream schools won't touch her with a barge pole. She's been out of school for a year and she is only 5.

Meanwhile, my mental health is deteriorating. The commentator I quoted is sniffing glue if they think doing things the way things have been done to our family is financially feasibl, in the long term for the country.

I really don’t think that’s the sort of scenario Pp was referring to, I didn’t read it that way anyway.

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