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Awake stewing at 3am due to disgraceful party etiquette

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Anonymouse2019 · 27/11/2023 03:50

It was recently my daughter's 4th birthday party. She attends a nursery preschool and she is one of the eldest so most of the other children are still 3 years old.

We didn't know who her closest friends were when writing invitations about 6 weeks ago so decided to invite the whole class of 18 kids. 13 RSVP'd, 10 of those could come.

With the invitations addressed to the children, we included a little note for parents/guardians with a bit more info about the venue and a little bit about our child which was relevant to the party. We also stated that a gift for our child wasn't necessary and that their child's company would be the best gift for our little girl (mainly that was us being diplomatic in a COL crisis) BUT we said if their child wanted to give or make a card for our daughter, that would be lovely and that we would keep them in her memory box for when she was a bit older (after she'd opened them, obviously).

Also in this note we said that the entrance fee and lunch for their child was covered but if the invited child wished to bring siblings, the parent/guardian would need to purchase food at the venue for that/those siblings.

I'll get to the point now.

One mum of a boy, F, replied saying he could attend. She did bring her child to the party and she also brought the child's older cousin (not invited as not a sibling but anyway...). Cousin was 8 years old.

F's older cousin sat down with the invited younger children and was helping himself to party food when we'd specifically said non-imvited children must have meals paid for separately by parents. The adult with them stood there and did nothing but I didn't realise until the meal was nearly over because there was so much going on in the room. Several other kids brought siblings and ALL their parents paid for those siblings' meals except for F's mother.

F was a pushy, grabby bully. He was pushing the other invited children about with no interference from his mum. I was wrapping cupcakes in clean napkins to add to the children's party bags (after they'd already had some birthday cake) and F came over and started grabbing at the cupcakes, running the icing and details on 4 or 5 of them. I very gently said these were to take home, they were not for now but he could have some more birthday cake instead. He started to scream. Not wanting other guests/parents to think I was hurting this child or being mean, I gave him a cupcake (one he'd ruined by trying to grab them) and he disappeared with it. No other children did this.

At the end of the day, they were the only guests not to say goodbye, or thank you for inviting them. More importantly they didn't wish my daughter a happy birthday or acknowledge her at all.

We came away with a small stack of cards and a couple of presents which was lovely. My child opened them later at home. None of them were from F.

F had taken home, as had all the other invited guests, a party bag put together by me, which contained some children's colouring stuff, a pot of bubbles, sweets, mini packet of biscuits and a little rubber stamp, plus the cupcake. Of course it was our choice to provide these and we were happy to.

So, F's cousin got a free meal when he shouldn't have (there wasn't plenty to go round either!), he got an extra cupcake and ruined several others which had to be thrown away, they didn't acknowledge our daughter in any way and didn't make or buy her a card. They also didn't say goodbye and I'm fact slipped out without us realising right at the end. F's behaviour was also disgusting yet he got his party bag and everything else paid for by us.

I woke at 3am thinking about the injustice of this and have been wondering if I should hand his mum a note on the school run, or even invoice her for the cousin's meal and the ruined cupcakes, but for the sake of about £10 it doesn't seem worth the bad feeling and aggro for every school run hereon in, however letting the mother get away with all this scot-free to me is not okay either.

Obviously we know not to invite F to anything again, but should I say something in private away from kids and other parents to his mum or is that a step too far?

OP posts:
Naptrappedmummy · 27/11/2023 17:06

Very rude but you have no choice but to let it go now.

I just tell other people’s kids off now (fairly but sternly). They won’t so I will. Not just to stop them spoiling events but because they’ll be adults in society in future and the thought of the current lot being the public is frankly terrifying. I suggest you do the same and I also know this comment will be very unpopular most likely

newnamethanks · 27/11/2023 17:10

Don't make a big deal ofnit and dont invite them to anything else. There will always be grabby people just avoid in future.

Blondeshavemorefun · 27/11/2023 17:16

You live and learn. Assume your first proper party for your daughter

Whole class parties are a flaff but kinda do it when they are 4/5

Never suggest inviting siblings

Was it soft play ? You said entrance and good paid for for guests

So did they have to pay for entrance and should have paid for food for 8yr

Did get a Bit confused sober if 3yr F was rude and smeared cakes or the 8 cousin

Or the cousin just ate the food he wasn't meant to

Yes obv num of F was rude

No don't pull her up on it. Too late

Should have said at the party again - any siblings /cousins you will need to buy some lunch for your child

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Blondeshavemorefun · 27/11/2023 17:17

I assume your 4 yr had a nice time and didn't notice what happened

That's the main thing

Don't invite that child /family again

Ramalangadingdong · 27/11/2023 17:58

MumblesParty · 27/11/2023 07:33

And there it is - bingo!
There’s always someone who has to point out that there are worse things in the world. We’re not allowed to get upset about anything because other people have it worse.

I get what you mean and agree that we are allowed to get upset but we might get over it quicker when we realise how privileged we really are and that we can save our upset for
events that really warrant it - which we will all face, regardless of where we are in the world or how poor or wealthy.

Prinnny · 27/11/2023 18:29

This is batshit 🤣 war and peace in the invite, a memory box, requesting handmade cards and party ruined by a 3yr old screaming for a cake and a 8yr old pinching some spare chicken nuggets…if that’s all that went wrong it sounds a successful preschool party!

Muddybooties · 27/11/2023 18:38

ElaineMBenes · 27/11/2023 15:16

Nope, we are actually promoting social cohesion and less bullying/exclusion at school.

You really aren't. It's a ridiculous policy.
What you are actually doing is:

  • teaching your children that you should only be friends with people who are the same sex as you.
  • paying for kids that your own child might not even like to attend their party. Why??

In reception full class parties make sense as nobody know who their friends are at that stage. However, once kids have established friendship groups and they are old enough to tell you who they are friends with, then they should be able to invite their actual friends.

What would you do if your child was friends with someone of the opposite sex? Not invite them to the party?

What if they were being bullied by someone of the same sex? Would you still insist they attend your child's party?

Personally I think it is beneficial for children to be friends with boys and girls, I can't understand why you would actively encourage segregation?

@ElaineMBenes

Because it is a catholic school and the children will be segregated from the age of 11 by sex 🤷‍♀️

Muddybooties · 27/11/2023 18:40

ElaineMBenes · 27/11/2023 15:18

So if you invite all 28 in the class that is £420.00 - £560.00

Don't invite the whole class then. Just invite your child's actual friends.........

Kids tend to be friends with all the other children of own sex and maybe a few of opposite… so I am inviting nearly all. And I am happy enough with the status quo.

Muddybooties · 27/11/2023 18:44

housethatbuiltme · 27/11/2023 15:40

First I have held whole class parties every year, near a dozen of them... never spent £420 let alone close to £1000 lol.

And yes if the school only allowed you to invite one sex that is dictated sexism which is illegal.

With your rule a boy who wants to invite 4 male friends and 2 female friend instead of inviting 6 kids would have to invite 14-15 boys that they maybe don't even like yet not be allowed their female friends... don't pretend for one second its about 'money' saving or 'poor' people who can't afford a '£1k' party.

Its blatant sexism.

@housethatbuiltme

Kids parties here are about £12.95 - £18.99 per child.

You can get it cheaper if you hire a leisure centre room or whatever but that isn’t what DC are wanting beyond age 5.

School isn’t dictating anything, it’s parental choice but everyone has gone the same route.

When they get older and want to start being picky sure if there are mixed sex that’s fine.

housethatbuiltme · 27/11/2023 18:47

Muddybooties · 27/11/2023 18:38

@ElaineMBenes

Because it is a catholic school and the children will be segregated from the age of 11 by sex 🤷‍♀️

You are saying all this stuff like it makes sense, my kids go to catholic school, absoloutly no segregation.

Its not the 1950s anymore. The segregated school where shut down 4+ decades ago.

thebestinterest · 27/11/2023 18:57

OP,
Can’t you just have a god laugh at how shitty mannered some people are, and pat yourselves on the back for being gold star parents like normal, sensible adults would? I’m serious!

Of course you don’t mention anything, that’s wild and OTT.

Who cares if you had to feed an extra kid! It’s a kid, and you’re hosting. And also, how much can 3-4 yrs even eat?

If you don’t want to be inconvenienced by others, don’t invite people to your gatherings. .. specially people you don’t know?

In the grand scheme of things, it’s honestly not that big of a deal.

Muddybooties · 27/11/2023 18:58

Geneve82 · 27/11/2023 16:28

@Muddybooties are you in the Uk?

@Geneve82

yep

ElaineMBenes · 27/11/2023 19:05

Because it is a catholic school and the children will be segregated from the age of 11 by sex 🤷‍♀️

Irrelevant.
I went to a catholic school and we weren't segregated by sex. It's really not that common anymore.

You aren't doing your child any favours by going along with this outdated nonsense.

ElaineMBenes · 27/11/2023 19:07

Kids tend to be friends with all the other children of own sex
Your kids maybe. It's not the case in my son's school.....

And I am happy enough with the status quo.

Clearly

Muddybooties · 27/11/2023 19:11

@Geneve82 @DappledThings

I am just catching up with your posts, please reread my posts.

I never at any point said the school dictated single sex parties. Someone else came up with that idea stating it would be illegal - I responded asking them if they were alright?! Because that would indeed be insane.

All of the children in our kids classes get on well, best friends are generally same sex.

The way it has panned out is that there are single sex parties from about age 6/7 to age 9/10 as almost everyone invited goes and the activities are expensive. I’m happy with this. We invite about 10 other kids from outside school (mixed sex) so it is fine. If we invited the opposite sex too it would be nearly 40 kids overall which is too big.

Muddybooties · 27/11/2023 19:12

ElaineMBenes · 27/11/2023 19:05

Because it is a catholic school and the children will be segregated from the age of 11 by sex 🤷‍♀️

Irrelevant.
I went to a catholic school and we weren't segregated by sex. It's really not that common anymore.

You aren't doing your child any favours by going along with this outdated nonsense.

@ElaineMBenes well I agree it is outdated nonsense having religion in school and segregating them post primary.

But it is also the best school in the area by miles so the standard of education is what we went for.

Muddybooties · 27/11/2023 19:14

Prinnny · 27/11/2023 18:29

This is batshit 🤣 war and peace in the invite, a memory box, requesting handmade cards and party ruined by a 3yr old screaming for a cake and a 8yr old pinching some spare chicken nuggets…if that’s all that went wrong it sounds a successful preschool party!

I agree @Prinnny the war and peace invite was barmy.

Muddybooties · 27/11/2023 19:16

housethatbuiltme · 27/11/2023 18:47

You are saying all this stuff like it makes sense, my kids go to catholic school, absoloutly no segregation.

Its not the 1950s anymore. The segregated school where shut down 4+ decades ago.

@housethatbuiltme

This is absolutely not my experience of the catholic schooling system. Things can be different in different locations.

There are absolutely still an enormous amount of catholic boys/girls schools at secondary level.

LadyEloise1 · 27/11/2023 19:18

Hearmenow23 · 27/11/2023 04:07

There are some horrible rough-arsed families about. That's it really. Some people just take, be grateful you're not like that.

I agree.

Geneve82 · 27/11/2023 19:22

School isn’t dictating anything, it’s parental choice but everyone has gone the same route.

so bollox that school policy as you original said @Muddybooties

and the “because it’s catholic”the children are segregated at 11…. you don’t seem very…. 🤷‍♀️

Geneve82 · 27/11/2023 19:28

Muddybooties · 27/11/2023 19:11

@Geneve82 @DappledThings

I am just catching up with your posts, please reread my posts.

I never at any point said the school dictated single sex parties. Someone else came up with that idea stating it would be illegal - I responded asking them if they were alright?! Because that would indeed be insane.

All of the children in our kids classes get on well, best friends are generally same sex.

The way it has panned out is that there are single sex parties from about age 6/7 to age 9/10 as almost everyone invited goes and the activities are expensive. I’m happy with this. We invite about 10 other kids from outside school (mixed sex) so it is fine. If we invited the opposite sex too it would be nearly 40 kids overall which is too big.

So no matter which kids are the “best friends” we have to invite all the boys or all the girls depending on sex of DC.

this is the arrangement in the schools we have attended

you very much gave the impression that this was a school policy

and now just a touch of back tracking is ongoing 😂

Geneve82 · 27/11/2023 19:30

Muddybooties · 27/11/2023 19:16

@housethatbuiltme

This is absolutely not my experience of the catholic schooling system. Things can be different in different locations.

There are absolutely still an enormous amount of catholic boys/girls schools at secondary level.

so to be clear @Muddybooties

your children attend a co ed catholic secondary school where the girls and boys are fully “segregated”?

Noodles1234 · 27/11/2023 20:25

This happens to every decent parent out there, happened to me and everyone I know at some point.

Welcome to the Party Club!

Wait till a parent moans about a (fully paid for) party..

Weddingblues23 · 27/11/2023 20:36

Yes they were rude but your reaction is WAY over the top. You're acting like the kid pulled down his pants and shat on the table.

IndigoLaFaye · 27/11/2023 20:52

If your child had fun the party was not ruined. You’re ruining it in your mind by focusing on it