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How rude was Cliff Richard to Alison Hammond?! 😲

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Almost40andprobablynotfabulous · 20/11/2023 13:51

Hi,

Had TM on in the background earlier and I was absolutely shocked at how casually rude Cliff Richard was to Alison Hammond. Not directly to her, but MASSIVELY inconsiderate and offensive nevertheless.

He was talking about the reason he missed his chance to meet Elvis and he explained that Elvis was overweight at the time and he knew he'd put up a picture on his wall of him and Elvis, but didn't want to if he "overweight and didn't look good" 🤨🙄 He went on to say something else not looking good if you were carrying extra weight and you could see how upset Alison was. She came back with something and tried to be humorous about it, but I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't want to call him out on it there and then. And obviously it won't have just been Alison who would have been offended by his clumsy, tone deaf comments.

Did anyone see it? So bad 🫤

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PearlClutzsche · 20/11/2023 18:42

Treesinmygarden · 20/11/2023 18:23

And they were American....

What does that have to do with it? They were successful here, too.
That's how Cliff was able to copy them.

Longma · 20/11/2023 18:45

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porridgeisbae · 20/11/2023 18:48

Flappers were 1920s so I don't get what you mean. They weren't teenagers

There were younger Flappers (as in women who followed that style of dress/'subculture, rather than just working women of a particular age.)

I meant that already, prior to 1950, not every generation was the same as the one before.

LowbrowVictoriana · 20/11/2023 18:48

is he supposed to call the tv station ahead of his appearance to find out who is on and whether there are stuff he can’t discuss for fear of offence?

He could always just not body-shame anyone. Easily done.

Mikimoto · 20/11/2023 18:49

Anything that might lead to Her Royal Gobness having less screen time can't be all bad.

Treesinmygarden · 20/11/2023 18:51

PearlClutzsche · 20/11/2023 18:42

What does that have to do with it? They were successful here, too.
That's how Cliff was able to copy them.

He was among the first British stars??? Comprende?

Iwasafool · 20/11/2023 18:56

porridgeisbae · 20/11/2023 17:53

Kids before the 50s were like mini versions of their parents.

IDK I mean there were Flappers at one point and before that there weren't Flappers.

Bobby socksers (or were they soxers?) in the late 40s and the 50s. I think they were mainly.Frank Sinatra fans

theconfidenceofwho · 20/11/2023 18:56

Sartre · 20/11/2023 14:08

I don’t think he was aiming it at her and if she was upset about it, perhaps she isn’t happy being overweight?

I agree with this - it had nothing to do with Alison and everything to do with meeting his idol and not wanting to be disappointed. She had no reason to be offended at all (if she was - I didn't see it to know).

Nagado · 20/11/2023 18:57

CharingX976 · 20/11/2023 15:51

The raid was based on entirely baseless accusations and came to nothing. He was found innocent and he should be treated as such.

I could accuse you of absolutely anything, have you investigated, found innocent, and tell everyone that there must be something suspicious about you because you were ACCUSED of something. The logic is absurd.

What on earth are you talking about? You have zero idea what the raid was based on, same as the rest of us. You don’t know if those accusations are baseless any more than anyone else. That information was never released to the public. And he was never ‘found innocent’. He was never found anything because there was no criminal trial. Surely you understand this?

SandyWaves · 20/11/2023 18:57

itsmyp4rty · 20/11/2023 14:22

I would feel bad for Alison except she was on a celeb dating show (can't remember which) and she was so rude about some of the people she went on dates with. I was quite shocked as she'd always seemed so lovely.

Also, how rude she was when Ant and Dec pranked her.

I think we all saw the real Alison then when she wasn't aware she was being filmed. She was horrid to the people she thought were working in the hotel.

Badbadbunny · 20/11/2023 18:58

@Treesinmygarden

I don't think Cliff Richard is any 'creepier' than any other singer of his vintage.

I agree. He's "of his time" which is why he's not particularly PC.

As for all the "he's a wrong'un" comments, I'd love to hear/see some real evidence. I judge people by who their friends are. Olivia Newton John was a well known close friend of Cliff for 50 years and no one has ever said a bad word about her - had there been even the faintest whiff of scandal about Cliff, she'd have had nothing to do with him, as she didn't have anything to do with several other "stars" who were well known to be genuinely wrong'uns.

CharingX976 · 20/11/2023 18:58

DonttouchthatLarry · 20/11/2023 18:38

All the 'wrong 'un' comments - I concur.

It's too vague. You need to have actual evidence to make an insinuation like this. If you have valid reasons to believe something, report it. Don't start defaming someone online because they give you some particular impression.

CharingX976 · 20/11/2023 19:00

Nagado · 20/11/2023 18:57

What on earth are you talking about? You have zero idea what the raid was based on, same as the rest of us. You don’t know if those accusations are baseless any more than anyone else. That information was never released to the public. And he was never ‘found innocent’. He was never found anything because there was no criminal trial. Surely you understand this?

But you're insinuations have absolutely no basis to them. Anyone can be investigated for anything. That doesn't make it true.

User0000009 · 20/11/2023 19:00

He just seems humourless and starchy to me

Northernsouloldies · 20/11/2023 19:00

Elvis must have been shitting it when Tommy Steele released Little white bull, British pop was shit until 63 onwards.

Iwasafool · 20/11/2023 19:01

Luxurybeliefspreader · 20/11/2023 18:08

I think he lost any bid for national treasure status by not being honest about his sexuality.
I understand it's his personal choice but I think in 2023 it not something people respect and it has naturally led to suspicion around him and dislike that he's being dishonest.
My mum is huge fan and of a generation that would ask no questions but the world has moved on.

To be fair to him he was in his late 20s when homosexual acts in private were decriminalised and there was still a hell of a lot of prejudice in the 70s and then in the 80s gay men were getting all the blame for AIDS. It is so much easier now.

funbags3 · 20/11/2023 19:01

@Northernsouloldies 😂😂

PearlClutzsche · 20/11/2023 19:01

Treesinmygarden · 20/11/2023 18:51

He was among the first British stars??? Comprende?

Again, so what?
His type of music was already popular and familiar before he made it. It wasn't new, even to Brits.
Verstehst?

Badbadbunny · 20/11/2023 19:02

Nagado · 20/11/2023 18:57

What on earth are you talking about? You have zero idea what the raid was based on, same as the rest of us. You don’t know if those accusations are baseless any more than anyone else. That information was never released to the public. And he was never ‘found innocent’. He was never found anything because there was no criminal trial. Surely you understand this?

He wouldn't have got compo from the police and bbc if there'd been any real evidence/reason for the raid!

Nanny0gg · 20/11/2023 19:06

Scruffington · 20/11/2023 18:35

He's lived longer than some of them but his music can't compare to the likes of The Kinks or The Byrds or Motown. It's drivel.

Don't disagree

Nagado · 20/11/2023 19:08

CharingX976 · 20/11/2023 19:00

But you're insinuations have absolutely no basis to them. Anyone can be investigated for anything. That doesn't make it true.

My insinuations? I haven’t made any insinuations. My post was my first post on the thread. And while I take your point that a ‘feeling’ isn’t enough to suggest that someone has committed a crime, whatever those allegations were, they were clearly sufficient to convince a Judge to issue a warrant. So sit down with your ‘baseless accusations’ and claims that he was ‘found innocent’ because you’re no better informed than anyone else. And not finding evidence to support a prosecution doesn’t make an allegation false either. None of us know for certain.

Nanny0gg · 20/11/2023 19:09

Iwasafool · 20/11/2023 19:01

To be fair to him he was in his late 20s when homosexual acts in private were decriminalised and there was still a hell of a lot of prejudice in the 70s and then in the 80s gay men were getting all the blame for AIDS. It is so much easier now.

Not in some worlds

Football?

Nanny0gg · 20/11/2023 19:10

PearlClutzsche · 20/11/2023 19:01

Again, so what?
His type of music was already popular and familiar before he made it. It wasn't new, even to Brits.
Verstehst?

Whatever

As a British pop star he was HUGE

derxa · 20/11/2023 19:10

Yourenotthekingofallthegays · 20/11/2023 15:51

Indeed. Vile man. And I'm sure plenty will come out when he dies.

I don't know these sort of messages are still standing.

Iwasafool · 20/11/2023 19:15

Nanny0gg · 20/11/2023 19:09

Not in some worlds

Football?

True but they aren't risking arrest so it was different back then. When I was working for the police I did lots of court files relating to gay men and cottaging. I can remember people like solicitors and head masters whose lives were ruined because they couldn't risk being openly gay and then got arrested when engaging in anonymous sex as the only choice they felt they had.

There was also some racism towards him, again more of an issue in the 60s than it is now.

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