And Suella has been sacked

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not before time - wonder who will get the poison chalice.

if William Hague is still in the commons, but o don’t think he is, Rishi would be wise to draw in his experience and counsel.

Tories don’t ‘earn money’, they inherit it and also take on directorships of companies that get their contracts from their old pals still holding the purse strings.

Surely you knew that? 😂

It had to happen. I think she'll continue to cause trouble, but it was the right thing to do.

Yep, as @RedToothBrush says, Sunak needs to get back the voters from the broad church of Torism.

They are probably not a very loud bunch but they are numerous and have been becoming politically homeless.

Cameron called a referendum without seeming to realise that an international peace treaty (the Belfast Agreement) stood in the way of an all-UK exit from the EU. It just didn't seem to form part of his considerations, and it was a dreadful blunder that snarled up our parliament for four years and badly damaged NI/ROI/UK relations. I would really doubt his competence as Foreign Secretary on that basis. He was expecting a Remain vote and gambled on it never becoming an issue, hence his quick exit from the HOC I suppose, knowing what he would have to endure in the debates. I am staggered by this, the Foreign Office of all places.

May's Deal was the best we were getting and was realistic at the point she put it to the Commons. The opposition fucked the country every bit as much as her own party. However May setting out her hard right agenda which was NEVER considered even by the hard right and UKIP prior to her October 2016 Party Speech was THE biggest mistake in politics this side of WWII. It was an error which wasn't forced and set the agenda since - without it Braverman would never have had the platform she's had. It was a bigger mistake than Brexit itself. It should never have got to to point that her Deal was the best option available. May was the one who didn't stop the devisiveness in politics, she was the one who legitimised it after the Brexit vote. Before she became PM NOT ONE, not even Farage was seriously considering exiting the customs union and the single market. Talk was of a Norway or Switzerland type deal. Again memories are short on this and forget what really happened or why she lost her majority in a pointless election, and then eventually catapualted Johnson into PM because of her failed deal.

Why not bring back John Major (or better still, his Spitting Image puppet....). Edwina, love, where are you?

@hazelnutlatte Suella appeals to the silent majority. Like Brexit did. Just because those who dislike her are more vocal, she is pushing all the right buttons with a lot of people. She is supported but not publicly. I can see her getting leadership. And I can see her getting the Tories back in if that happens.

If the silent majority agree with a fascist, we as a country are lost.

I bet Boris Johnson is having a big old sulk this morning.

Great post, RedToothBrush.

Yes, it looks very much like a cross between desperation and a hard calculation about damage limitation in an up-coming GE.

(It also suggests that populism isn't necessarily a medium to short-term winner for the Conservative Party, especially when you don't have other Parties playing the populist game.)

We really don't need swaggery, ball-swingers. We need intelligent calm people who have the focus and skill to run a country, not a heap of bollocks.

And, yes, I think that 'noisy minority' is a more accurate description of who barks when the lines of Braverman whistle.

They've exerted more influence than the numbers merit because of the way they stack up as an electoral fraction.

Many Tory voters don't inherit and instead grow into being a Tory voter

It was a genuine question, I don't for one minute believe that every single Tory MP has inherited wealth.

And also, I applied my question to all MPs not a singular party

Cameron literally broke the country.
The resentment due to 5 years of austerity was what primed many to vote for Brexit - without austerity and Cameron's lacklustre remain campaign there would have been no majority for Brexit.

This - and I think it shows how little talent our PM actually has to call on - not that I think Labour in a better position with regards to talent.

Braverman had to go - she was increasingly making them look like loons - and though it is what she clearly wanted I hope it doesn't result in a leadership challenge and if though more likely when they lose next election going even more to the right and not the center ground.

Yes I thought this too

well Nadine is bound to say something to add some comedy value

@TotalOverhaul exactly

The Tories have been really bad at damage limitation with this sort of thing over the past few years. The offending minister invariably ends up going anyway, and the weak PM looks even weaker because of the several days of pissing about.

The silent majority in Britain is centrist. Braverman is an extremist. They won’t vote for her.

So you think police allowing anti semites to march every weekend in London and ignoring their vile racist banners is acceptable.
Funny how those that shout the loudest about racism don’t have a problem with anti Semitism or 2 tier policing.
Im just glad that the faux pearl clutching left wingers on Mumsnet don’t represent the majority in this country.

He’s got no track record of doing things for the good of the country…and God knows we need fewer members of government acting for the good of the party.

Because not only had the EU in fact made lots of allowances, but it was also a significant political misjudgement on Cameron's part. The reason he called the referendum was to try and shut the lunatic wing of his party up. He expected to win, and thus gambled the country's future for the sake of Tory internal wranglings. Even if you look at it from a pro-Brexit perspective, it was a total failure from Cameron. He made a decision that bit him in the arse and cost him the PM job.

I’m not sure that’s true. Just because the current older generation are more right wing doesn’t mean that will continue. There are lots of reasons that’s the case and mostly not to do with opinions changing (privilege leading to longer life, for one). Britain is essentially a centrist country - centre right economically and centre left socially. That’s why New Labour did so well. Tories are miles from that.

Except David Cameron is a grossly incompetent fool who is more interested in salvaging a reputation that was deservedly trashed in 2016 than anything else. All his presence is going to do is remind people of who started the chain of chaos over the last decade.

Funny how people think they know what the silent majority think.

I am glad SB has gone vile woman.

Interestingly it hasn't been true of millennials thus far. We're less right wing than our parents at the same age. Too early to tell with Gen Z. But part of the reason historically people get more right wing with age has always been assumed to be their acquisition of assets. If you make it harder for a whole generation to have a financial stake in a system, as the Tories undoubtedly have, they've got less reason to defend it.

Put bluntly, a big increase in the amount of people renting into middle age is liable to have consequences.

I find that a really amusing protestation. Who is this 'silent' majority? And if they're not saying anything, how can people claim to know what they think?