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And Suella has been sacked

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WellWellSaidTheRockingChair · 13/11/2023 08:49

not before time - wonder who will get the poison chalice.

if William Hague is still in the commons, but o don’t think he is, Rishi would be wise to draw in his experience and counsel.

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AInightingale · 15/11/2023 09:37

SerendipityJane · 15/11/2023 09:23

Didn't the mother whose child scuffed the Koran need to appear with her head covered, so she could be suitably berated by a Muslim cleric?

No.

Oh right. I take it the photographs I saw of just such a scene were mocked up by the far right. As for the teacher at Batley Grammar School - he's a figment of the imagination too.

SerendipityJane · 15/11/2023 09:38

AInightingale · 15/11/2023 09:37

Oh right. I take it the photographs I saw of just such a scene were mocked up by the far right. As for the teacher at Batley Grammar School - he's a figment of the imagination too.

Can you clean up the marks your goalpost left please. They make the playing field look unsightly.

EasternStandard · 15/11/2023 09:41

On the demographic issue there was a v good piece yesterday from Sarah Harper who is director of an Oxford institute on the ageing population and other related issues who said what I’ve been thinking

You have people worried about AI and you have people worried about demographics and the two don’t seem to speak much

A more holistic view is needed. As we have an aging population we have tech advance which will lower need for working population

Alexandra2001 · 15/11/2023 10:29

Well, no wonder Suella had to go, Rwanda is unlawful, a key Braverman and Sunak policy.

She is a lawyer isn't she, specialised in immigration law! obv not a very good one, the court ruled it wasn't just the ECHR either.

Why on earth didn't they have a rethink/renegotiation with Rwanda, instead of just ploughing on.

We are back to square one now, so much for Stop the Boats!

Dymaxion · 15/11/2023 10:32

@EasternStandard was Sarah Harper the lady on R4 yesterday on Life Scientific ? It was a really interesting interview Smile

VikingVolva · 15/11/2023 11:49

Governments getting caught introducing legislation that they really should have known was illegal is sadly not uncommon.

The big example is Control Orders (that New Labour then had the sheer effrontery to accuse the Tories of going soft because they watered them down, conveniently missing out the censure they had themselves received for acting illegally)

In short, this is what governments do these days. Bring out measures and let the courts decide (ideally later, on someone else's watch) whether they're legal.

The idea that an administratively competent and morally sound government would put forward only measures that are legal seems to have been consigned to the history books. And I think the country s the worse for that.

SerendipityJane · 15/11/2023 12:46

The idea that an administratively competent and morally sound government would put forward only measures that are legal seems to have been consigned to the history books. And I think the country s the worse for that.

Because every time it happens, it underscores the imbalance of power in the UK. If you or I tried a stunt like that, we'd be behind bars. Which then puts the judiciary at risk, as judges end up having to repeated enforce unjust laws.

I have as much respect for the law as the Home Secretary does. And in the interests of justice, courts should acknowledge that.

EasternStandard · 15/11/2023 12:48

Dymaxion · 15/11/2023 10:32

@EasternStandard was Sarah Harper the lady on R4 yesterday on Life Scientific ? It was a really interesting interview Smile

Yes she was great : )

SerendipityJane · 16/11/2023 16:54

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