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Gordon Ramsay new baby

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Weridmouse · 11/11/2023 17:39

Congratulations . Well done Tana.

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RudsyFarmer · 11/11/2023 22:25

I feel very sorry for the women who assume this is possible naturally and put their families off.

PP82 · 11/11/2023 22:28

RudsyFarmer · 11/11/2023 22:25

I feel very sorry for the women who assume this is possible naturally and put their families off.

Women really aren't that stupid. I've already said this gives me hope, but that's not because I think it happened naturally for her or necessarily will for me. Its because it shows the possibilities that are open to us these days.

Miamonthly · 11/11/2023 22:30

ChateauMargaux · 11/11/2023 22:22

Bloody Hello magazine said.. they already have two sons, Jack age 23, Oscar age 4 and three daughters Megan age 25, Holly age 23 and Tilly age 22...

Anyone would think we were in the Victorian era and they were landed gentry.... FFS... daughters are not less than sons and Megan was their firstborn.

And yes @ChateauMargaux sexism is rife.

Look at this thread all about how the 49 year old woman could have a child, discussions about the quality of her eggs and speculation over whether she was pregnant and birthed the baby (despite being pictured in a hospital bed wearing a wristband…

Meanwhile the 57 year old man is largely let off the hook, his sperm quality, paternity and virility unquestioned. And he is less chastised for having a baby later in life.

Woman have a look at yourselves and why you would want to play ball with the big sexist fish and contribute to patriarchal inequality, discrimination and oppression.

notahappybunny7 · 11/11/2023 22:31

PyongyangKipperbang · 11/11/2023 22:11

How is your "lots of women are not fertile" any more true?

Lots of women are fertile in their 50's, I am one of them. I wish I wasnt btw, but I am. Lots of women are not, my sister is one of them.

Neither statement is "Utter Shite".

so you and your sister are both conceiving and giving birth to babies or you’re just both still having periods. There’s a difference, and I doubt it’s the former as you’d probably be all over the news.

LadyBird1973 · 11/11/2023 22:33

Lots of women are still ovulating in their late 40s/early 50s - before contraception was so easily available, it wasn't uncommon for some women to 'catch' prior to menopause - it's the body's last hurrah!

I like this - it makes me feel less old and past it, to know women my age are still having kids. Not that I would want one at 49 mind - I'm knackered Grin

I don't think it's selfish - my parents are still going strong in their 70s, so if they'd had a baby at 50, their child would be mid 20's now.

MrsMoastyToasty · 11/11/2023 22:34

I have a friend with 6 children (full siblings) with 25 years between oldest and youngest. First one at 24 and the latest at 49. My friend is a bit of a dizzy mare at times and thought she was going through the menopause.

StarShipControl · 11/11/2023 22:37

Omg how long do we need contraception for? I thought around 50 would be quite safe. I have never come across anyone having a baby over 45.

MaisyAndTallulah · 11/11/2023 22:37

EvenBetta · 11/11/2023 17:41

Did you mean to email this to her?

What a bitchy post. Why?

HamBone · 11/11/2023 22:37

Hellenabe · 11/11/2023 21:48

I've met him a few times through work and he's pretty leery. I get the impression Tanas own family are horrible so Gordon is her rock.

@Hellenabe That’s interesting, I thought that I read somewhere that her father helped Gordon open his first restaurant (presumably financial backing). Perhaps they were on better terms back then.

PyongyangKipperbang · 11/11/2023 22:42

notahappybunny7 · 11/11/2023 22:31

so you and your sister are both conceiving and giving birth to babies or you’re just both still having periods. There’s a difference, and I doubt it’s the former as you’d probably be all over the news.

I am not as I am on contraception as I dont want anymore children, I am still regularly ovulating. My sister isnt as she never ovulated as she has always been infertile.

Your point however is either as accurate or "utter shite" as the pp's.

PyongyangKipperbang · 11/11/2023 22:44

StarShipControl · 11/11/2023 22:37

Omg how long do we need contraception for? I thought around 50 would be quite safe. I have never come across anyone having a baby over 45.

I am 50 and still ovulating. Family history of menopause babies, I am not risking it!

RudsyFarmer · 11/11/2023 22:51

PP82 · 11/11/2023 22:28

Women really aren't that stupid. I've already said this gives me hope, but that's not because I think it happened naturally for her or necessarily will for me. Its because it shows the possibilities that are open to us these days.

Women are this stupid! I was one of them glibly telling people when I was in
my thirties that I had loads of time and women routinely had kids well into their 40s. It’s a lie perpetuated by the wealthy as they won’t be honest.

Theres also threads on here that come through where women are trying to naturally conceive their first at 45.

wanttokickoffbutcant · 11/11/2023 23:02

Gosh I am 50 and have a nearly 14 year old. Cannot imagine having a baby now - thought I was really old an 37 to give birth!!

I also haven't had a period since I was 44 so my time was running out.

SWSO · 11/11/2023 23:14

They can hire someone to do the night feeds, clean and do the gardening and laundry . They can hire a nanny if they fancy a night out . Money makes life run smoother .

CantFindTheBeat · 11/11/2023 23:15

What's the impact on your body, being pregnant and giving birth around 50?

Makes me wince just thinking about it 🙈

EconomyClassRockstar · 11/11/2023 23:19

As someone who is the same age as Tana and still having regular periods so theoretically could still get pregnant, I find this interesting.

Personally, I feel quite empowered by DH and I being empty nesters and, even if I had 100 nannies, would not in a million years want to go back to nappies and breast feeding and toddler groups, as much as I loved it at the time. But clearly the Ramsey's feel very differently so congrats and cheers to them!

LuluBlakey1 · 11/11/2023 23:26

Firefly1987 · 11/11/2023 21:04

What's the average life expectancy for a man? My dad was healthy but he still died of cancer, I would've been only 16 if he had been 57 when I was born. He was 50 which was still far too old. And I'll never have a dad walk me down the aisle or any other things in life.

Why does it matter that a few very unlucky people die young? Is that some sort of green light to risk that happening to more children purely because of advanced age? I love how parents can never be deprived of all the children they want, but the kids can make do with siblings instead of parents if they lose them.

Many children are born to lives of poverty in this country- to young single parents, ill-educated, ill-equipped to look after them. They grow up with often insecure, chaotic home lives, in poor housing, with decreased life chances, and are more likely to end up in care or with poor educational experiences and repeating the patterns of their parents mistakes.

I'd bet the children of the Ramseys and the Coren-Mitchells don't suffer that insecurity, poverty, reliance on the State, poor housing, poor education and any lack of stability .

Any child can lose a parent at any age. I'd rather grow up with two parents in a secure home, who are mature, in a happy relationship, decent housing, have a good education and have 30 years of the best chances in life. The damage done to many children by poor parenting is lifelong.

My parents were in their mid- 40s when I was born. I was an only child. They were very happily married for many years before they had me. Not well-off but financially stable, emotionally stable, it was a happy, secure, clean, warm home and I was really loved and well-looked after physically and emotionally. School was important, reading, I had decent clothing, a comfortable bedroom, holidays, was encouraged to do well at school. I went to university (first generation in our family) - because of my parents support and encouragement. I was encouraged to be independent and to think fir myself. My dad died, unexpectedly, after an operation in my early 20s (nothing to do with his age, an allergic reaction to something in the operation)and my mam 13 years later. I feel very grateful to have had them as parents- not deprived of anything by the fact they were older. They enhanced my life in every way. If I'd had older siblings I'm sure I'd have felt supported by a relationship with them.

RiderofRohan · 11/11/2023 23:43

NoCheaperTransactions · 11/11/2023 18:57

I am 50 and still having periods.

But the thought of having a baby now makes me shudder.

Having periods doesn't mean you are fertile. Egg quality at 50 would be extremely poor in the vast majority of women, even if they have monthly periods. Past mid- forties it is very lucky (or unlucky depending how you look at it) to conceive naturally.

Most of these celeb mums would have had embryo freezing or donor eggs.

Blinkingbonkers · 11/11/2023 23:45

Meh, they will have nannies available both night and day - if they don’t want to do the heavy lifting they have enough cash to choose not to. She’s extremely fit & healthy, I think she’ll manage (with help too so I don’t reckon she’ll struggle!). Best wishes to them!

Royaly82 · 11/11/2023 23:45

I dont know the age gap with them but My 24 year old and 7yr old have an amazing very much sibling relationship.

RocketIceLollie · 11/11/2023 23:47

Lilacdressinggown · 11/11/2023 19:20

But you are a minority - I would think most people are interested in a celebrity of some kind. Not necessarily infatuated- I don’t think this thread suggests infatuation- but interested. It’s human nature. There is probably a social reason for it.

That there is a thread about a celebrity baby questioning the age of parents suggests there is a celebrity infatuation. Does it really harm or matter to you in your everyday life? Probably not. So it's a bizarre debate.

ReaderIChangedMyName · 11/11/2023 23:57

villet · 11/11/2023 20:49

Did they use ivf or have any help ?

The Ramsay’s will be in touch- once they’re home from hospital- to ask you some questions about your medical history, once they’ve answered your questions of course…

Screamingabdabz · 12/11/2023 00:05

There is an assumption here that she actually gave birth. She could’ve used a surrogate and just posed for those photos in the hospital.

Miamonthly · 12/11/2023 00:11

@Screamingabdabz

why would she have a hospital bracelet on if she hadn’t given birth??

honestly all this skepticism and attacking women it isn’t on.

goldenrachita · 12/11/2023 00:47

Yes, congratulations! It looks like he'll be a very loved baby.

I think it's natural to wonder how this happened at 49. On one hand, of course, it's none of the public's business and we have no right to know. But it does raise the hopes of women in their mid forties who want (more) children and it would be interesting to know.

I'm a similar age to Tana and had my 2 children in my 40s, and would welcome (absolutely love) a third. I would also worry about being too old a parent. I already worry about that- right now I never care or notice my age but in twenty years' time....??

The part I find most intriguing about this story is that they have nearly 2 decades between child 4 and child 5. I read they sadly had a miscarriage inbetween but in 2016 which would still have left a 15 year gap. I wonder why you'd have 4 children then start a completely new generation of offspring 15-18 years later? Fertility obstacles seems an unlikely explanation given that she had the last two at 45 and 49- that's the sign of an unusually fertile woman not an infertile one. Not my business but wondered if anyone had read anything about this?