Gordon Ramsay new baby

[Weridmouse]

Congratulations . Well done Tana.

And yes, I know women can conceive naturally at 48/49 but it's very rare. I personally have never met anyone who has. I also know egg donation is a possibility.
In any case, it's wonderful.

Why are you asking solely about married women?

Not the PP who posted it but it does make a difference to the decision making process. As a single 50 year old on a single income who could (conceivably!) still conceive, I am sure that my thoughts would be different to a woman like TR who is in a long term financially stable situation.

I'd have thought other issues would be much more pertinent in an unplanned pregnancy at that stage of life e.g. medical advice regarding both mother and baby, long term interests of mother/baby and of others i.e. father/siblings etc.

If the only criteria to be considered is financial stability, then not all married women are in the same secure, stable financial situation as TR.

There are some unmarried women who are much more financially stable than the majority of couples at that stage, particularly those who haven't already spent a fortune raising previous offspring. This is even more relevant if they are also in stable, committed long-term relationship without marriage.

Tbh, the question riled me as it read to me the PP was indicating there is a hierarchy of women when it comes to pregnancy, with married women being the pinnacle of said hierarchy.

I would put my ire down to hormones but having concluded menopause in my mid 40s it's unlikely to be that!! 😉

😂

They have a younger one, about 3 or 4 years old, so the older ones might not feel like siblings but he won't be like an only child.

I think this women used her and her husband's frozen embryos from when she was in her 20's. Unless that is your situation ( you have frozen 20yr old embryos) then to have a child at 45+ it is likely you will need donor eggs.

Recent tech has made it possible to preserve frozen embryos longer, up to about 50 years, but anything preserved before that had a safe period of a decade, as such, shed have used her eggs from her early 40s earliest and likely it was the same batch of embryos used for her last child.

Not sure about that 10y was the NHS limit, I doubt Gordon and Tanna had their initial rounds of IVF on the NHS.

I hope the Gordon Ramsey away from the cameras is not the one we see on camera, for the sake of the child.

I don’t get the massive age gap between the youngest of the older ones and the first new one. I suppose she suddenly got broody. He is 57!
At least the two little ones will have each others when everyone they love has gone.

I've also met him a few times through working and he was absolutely charming and very professional. It's interesting how experiences differ!

@anotherside somebody (you?) was going on about travelling in 20s and 30s.

If pp is 51 and her child is 20+, she's been an adult for some time. She's already had time to do that.

I'm not bugging that people are having babies at 49 'to be financially secure'. More likely they've had fertility issues and it turned out this way.

Most people are able to be stable before 40... 49 etc. pretty ridiculous to suggest on need to be 37+ unless people are open to not having children at all.

You don't need to be 37 to have a flat, it does not take 19 years of adulthood to get to this point.

To answer all the wonderers with a bit of common sense from very mild reading around this thread… seriously, read one article people!!

Tana and Gordon have always needed ivf and their first three children are the product of it.

They first embarked on this second stage of their family around 2015, at this point she was 40/41. Her children would have been 17, 15, 15 and 14 at that stage….. A stage where they stop being kids and are morphing into adults. She loves having babies and young children so maybe felt unhappy with this. Perhaps he did too.

If, and I say if, they did ivf again it’s unlikely embryos/eggs from their younger days were used, they may have had a second round of harvesting around the 40 mark and these still would be viable. We wouldn’t all be raising eyebrows about a 40/41 year old woman having a baby and this is certainly roughly the age they began their process of family expansion.

After the tragic loss of their son Rocky in 2016, they now have two further children Oscar and his brother Jesse James.

Of course the intricacies of their decision making, what actually happened and the medical aspects can only, and should only, be known by themselves.

But from an outsiders point of view, reading one article regarding their family life (and being able to do simple maths) everything seems very straightforward. And they seem a very happy and loving family. How lovely there are more children to love now.

Case in point here is the first article that comes up whenever you google Gordon Ramsay ivf.

https://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/needing-ivf-made-me-feel-a-failure-says-ramsays-wife-7187081.html

It states that they both have fertility problems - POS and low sperm count. And that Gordon was wanting another child in 2012, with Tana not so keen. Though it also misquotes Tana’s age as 31, when she would have been 38 at that time.

Had they been any regular couple they likely would have had 2 pregnancies and been job done by early 40s. The fertility issues complicate and elongate the process particularly whenever you have a miscarriage at 20wks too.

People need to have some compassion and understanding and stop being so judgey.

@Trez1510

Marriage being the fundamentally important factor when having a child relates to the legalities.

If you are married both parties have more legal rights and this is a better and more secure environment to bring a child into.

More on that here:-

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/family/living-together-marriage-and-civil-partnership/living-together-and-marriage-legal-differences/

Yes, but Tana has been doing this since she was 25! She has had a baby to raise for nearly all her adult life and now will be raising one into her 60s. Still, if that's what she wants to do, with all her resources, there's nowt as strange as folk.

I’m sure I read in his book that HE had fertility issues so they had assistance with their previous pregnancies , so it could have been a frozen embryo.
Congratulations to them anyway.

Yes almost certainly from very brief research this is almost certainly the case.

'Unless that is your situation ( you have frozen 20yr old embryos) then to have a child at 45+ it is likely you will need donor eggs.'

Yes, that is my plan. I find it quite patronising, to be honest, that you think I need that pointing out to me.

I am just surprised that this news story would prompt you to think it was relevant to your situation. I would say there are significant differences. But I don't want to patronise you duther by pointing them out.

Good luck on your journey.

For me it did. I won't go into the reasons why, but my husband and I met when I was in my late 30s, but did not consider that we were in a position to start trying to concieve until I was 40. We still don't own our own home. We could but now, but are saving our money for fertility treatment instead (we live somewhere where renting is cheaper and more secure than the UK.)

Even if the particular factors that my own financial situation has not been in play, I would not have started trying til late 30s, and I have many friends for whom that is also the place. People have different types of lives, with different plans, priorities and circumstances. All sorts of things get in the way of the best laid plans. Life isn't simple, straightforward or linear.

It's just a reminder that medical advances are now allowing more and more people to successfully become parents later. I'm assuming she had fertility treatment (sure, there's a tiny chance she didn't) and its just another example of a woman with a positive story about becoming a mother at a later age. The specifics might be different, but the principle the same.

Thank you for your well wishes.

That was a very garbled post above, and it's not letting me edit.

*We could buy now

*Even if the particular factors that led to my own financial situation had not been in play, I would not have started trying til late 30s, and I have many friends for whom that is also the case.

She used her own eggs/ embryos ( whether that was from 1998 when she was 24 or 2012/13 when she was 38/39. She had also undergone fertility treatment 4 times before and had successfully gestated 5 babies. That is massively different from attempting a first pregnancy with donor eggs at 45.