Gordon Ramsay new baby

[Weridmouse]

Congratulations . Well done Tana.

Yes because the planet can really cope with more and more and more and more humans on it can't it?

The UK is far too overcrowded and only an complete selfish idiot would have so many children.

I agree that something will have to be sorted out with regard to pensions but the Ponzi scheme of keep increasing the population is never going to be a good idea and it would never end would it? Just keep increasing and increasing

I find it hard to believe so many people ‘can’t understand’ why she wants another baby, and one at ‘her age’.

I think it is just the choice of words used to describe how the exhaustion, stress and worry would not be the path they'd choose at TR's age, bearing in mind they already know how bad the exhaustion, stress and worry of being a parent can be.

But I agree people are not comparing like with like. TR's experience of being a parent will be very different to the vast majority of everyone here.

So... when a married woman who thinks she's past all that (and quite possibly having menopausal symptoms) suddenly finds herself upduffed, what would you suggest she does?

What's the average life expectancy for a man? My dad was healthy but he still died of cancer, I would've been only 16 if he had been 57 when I was born. He was 50 which was still far too old. And I'll never have a dad walk me down the aisle or any other things in life.

Why does it matter that a few very unlucky people die young? Is that some sort of green light to risk that happening to more children purely because of advanced age? I love how parents can never be deprived of all the children they want, but the kids can make do with siblings instead of parents if they lose them.

The UK population increase is being driven by migration increases, not births.

Births are decreasing year on year and deaths have increased.

Any time someone wants to call out migration they get labelled a racist.

That’s what the UK has become/is

But if you look at her hands, they tell a different story

Most people that age get a puppy instead.

Bonkers.

(((Hugs))) It’s so hard. I had two miscarriages at 40 and a healthy baby boy at 42. There is hope.

I've most track of the number of times I've made this same comment on threads like these but FYI it is very unlikely that your great grandma gave birth in her 50's. Much more likely that she was bringing up one of her daughters children who was born out of wedlock.
Giving birth in your late 40's or 50's is almost impossible without some medical intervention

Thanks. I was taking a supplement with 1000iu a day but stopped when I found out I miscarried. (It was a MMC) Suppose I should keep taking it. Do you mind me asking if things worked out for you in the end?

Thank you. Lovely to hear stories with positive endings.

Women have always had babies in their late 40’s.

because they are rich, they have nannies and help so the motherhood will be easier on her no matters her age.

Well, I'm 54 and if I were to suddenly give birth to a healthy baby with no chromosomal abnormalities I'd be delighted

I mean, it's pretty unlikely, what with the alcohol ages of both parents, and if I found out in the first 15 weeks I wouldn't hesitate to abort; but in the vanishingly unlikely event that it happened I wouldn't give a shit about Being Tired

And my mum was 30 when I was born, and died when I was 25, so.

You may as well say selfish to have a baby at any age. Or selfish to have a baby if you’re not a resident of a high income country with an above average wage, an above average IQ, and impeccable health. Otherwise you’ll be passing those disadvantages onto your child which is selfish surely.

@PP82 yes, I had my son followed by 4 miscarriages, went to the mc clinic, tests showed everything ok except vit D. Took a loading dose of vitamin D followed by the better you 3000 spray. By that stage I was so downhearted we weren't trying anymore (not preventing either, thought I'd leave it to fate) Got pregnant about a year later...was prescribed progesterone but didn't really take it (couldn't cope with side effects) had a very healthy pregnancy and a lovely baby girl who is now a lively toddler. I think your 30s in general but also pregnancy/periods/peri are an absolute drain on your body's resources and supplements are really important.

Nonsense, my sister has a big gap between first two and last two. There's 23 years gap. They still love the littles like siblings, just as I love my half sister like a sibling despite never growing up in the same house.

But of course other people do all the fun stuff when they’re in their 20s and early 30s and then have the parenting years and then more fun stuff in retirement. Swings and roundabouts.

Regarding the UK population increase, it's being driven by the ageing population but I doubt any of us are going to jump off a cliff age 65 to sacrifice ourselves for the good of the nation so why would we expect anyone else to sacrifice having a family for the same reason.

AV age of menopause is 51, range goes up to 55. So it's possible because her egg kicked out an egg and his sperm got jiggy with it.

Ive said this loads of times. If that wasnt the case then what about the religious women that have many children sometimes every 15 months how come they arent having them beyond 45? Ive never seen it naturally. Ive only seen women in their fifties using donor eggs or previously frozen embroyos which isprobably whats happened here. Ovulating in your fifties means nothing.

But of course other people do all the fun stuff when they’re in their 20s and early 30s and then have the parenting years and then more fun stuff in retirement. Swings and roundabouts.

Pp said she's 51, so if her dc is 20, she had him at 31... 13 years of adulthood isn't enough?

But the UK needs reasonably high immigration levels as the native population - for one reason or another- are unable or unwilling to fill key gaps in the economy: health workers, care workers, social workers, hospitality, truck drivers, fruit pickers … British governments don’t keep immigration high for laughs, they do it to stop economic/social collapse and Brexit did not change that. (as Brexiters were of course told a million times but they had fingers in ears).

There's a difference between martyring yourself and not having a family-

And just not having 6 kids.

6 children. Jesus! It’s too many!