Thread 32 Sunak : Sunak v Suella, the final countdown?

[DuncinToffee]

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4916659-thread-31-sunak-court-conflicts-and-complications?page=1

He did indeed. And that started the rot until we end up like this...

Banning tents for homeless people dropped. Bloody hell what a terrible and revealing sentence that is, and the mean cruel mind behind it.

Did anyone here watch the Jimmy McGovern drama Time on BBC1? The female prisoner who got released with nowhere to go, was sent away with a tent.

Very timely and based on a real policy.

Anyone see the interview with Heseltine yesterday? What a long way the Tory party has fallen come since his day.

Should we be locking up rapists or as the current government prefers to do, cover up for them?

This mealy mouthed attitude to Braverman is so telling. Usual Conservatives on here saying they are not bothered. They should be.

integrity, professionalism and accountability at every level latest

https://x.com/AdamBienkov/status/1724397202045280740?s=20

Rishi Sunak's spokesman tells me the Government has "no plans" to release copies of messages sent by David Cameron to senior ministers about Greensill Capital, now he's back in Government.

I read somewhere yesterday that William Hague was behind the Cameron appointment.

He just wrote an article in the Times (if anyone has a share token)

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/camerons-decency-is-an-asset-to-ailing-tories-x8zf2mfgp

"The Johnson Downing Street was an aberration, a deep embarrassment for many of us who are Conservatives, and it must never be repeated," William Hague writes. "People have to know that... their government is led by a group of serious people."

Bloody hell. I am so angry that they basically admit that Johnson and all the people who he brought in were clown college. I'm done taking defenders of the Conservatives on these boards in any way seriously. Had grown up serious government been the standard then the UK would not be in this bloody mess.

There’s no point in taking them seriously. They have absolutely nothing except out of date platitudes which might have been true of late 20th century Tories but certainly don’t apply to the current lot.

Well, as we all know, the Tories went for Johnson because they knew he was likely to give them a decent majority. And yes it's the absolute responsibility of voters that they chose to vote for him or their Tory candidate in their constituency to enable him to be prime minister.

The Labour Party chose Jeremy Corbyn as their leader and people didn't vote for him or their local Labour candidate and people didn't vote Labour for him to be prime minister.

We can all set up a political party but it's up to the electorate to vote for us or not. This is democracy.

Yep. Agree with Hague about Johnson, but it shows the deep contempt and feeling of entitlement that the answer is to bring back the old PM rather than call a GE at this point

I know Leadsom is back- what I was querying was the statement that she'd done a VONC.

I did ! I meant to post here at the time!

@DuncinToffee I agree with William Hague about never repeating the Johnson embarrassment as he terms it.

The best way to avoid that would be to charge Boris Johnson with the crimes he committed whilst in office, so he is convicted and in prison for life. Treason and killing 20,000 people by neglect for starters.

@Passepartoute Ahhh got you. Apologies, yes the other Andrea

I’ve often thought/said that losing the Brexit vote and Cameron’s departure completely threw their succession plans. This cements it for me.

I wouldn’t be surprised to find that they’ve damaged at least one generations intake for fresh bodies. They’ve chased off the moderates and anyone still clinging to alligiences has had to develop huge blind spots or employ concerning mental gymnastics to justify their continued loyalty. Whether they can turn that around now remains to be seen. I think peoples loyalties run deeper than a figurehead and the rhetoric hasn’t left much room for comfort for individuals to change direction.

Me too. It hit me quite hard that when this was written/filmed it was probably meant to be highlighting the dire state of housing or hostel services for those leaving the prison system but was now highlighting exactly how much this government was complicit in creating a situation they then demonised.

Spot on.

I was chatting to my staunch Tory friend the other day about Bravermans times article and she was shocked to learn that she'd been asked to edit it and not print it in that form.

But even then it was a shrug and "Labour will be worse".

She can't answer what positives the current Tory's have brought to the country or will bring. She doesn't know beyond what's said the ins and outs. It's just buying into whats heard.

Was quite interesting today after she'd been sacked over it

Jesus, her resignation letter!

https://x.com/SuellaBraverman/status/1724465401982070914?s=20

Ooh! Foot stamping "It's all your fault!". Tip, Suella; LTB and go away.

And some of those comments!

Was just about to post the link. Wow. A declaration of war, for sure.

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