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Is there any chance of a single woman getting a 2 bed housing association house ?

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loandbeholdd · 26/10/2023 20:39

I'm 35 and I'm currently in a 1 bed flat on band 3 (general needs )
I've been on housing list for 7 years now (same housing list my flats with )
I'm bidding on 2 bed houses and getting up to 20th position
Sometimes 15th ish
Do you think I'm wasting my time ?
What's the chances of me getting a 2 bed house ?

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YouPutTheScrewInTheTuna · 01/11/2023 09:45

loandbeholdd · 26/10/2023 21:11

I work full time !
Unfortunately bonds etc and the private rent market which is ridiculously expensive and not assured tenancy isn't something I can do

If you work full time (even on minimum wage) and can't afford a 2 bed in the North East something must be wrong as its very cheap there compared to literally everywhere else in the country!?

justjeansandanicetop · 01/11/2023 11:55

Comedycook · 26/10/2023 22:09

It's actually laughable to say you need your social housing property to have a spare guest bedroom.

I know. I own my house, service the ever increasing mortgage, pay for all repairs, appliances etc.

I'd love a spare bedroom for "visiting friends". But I can't afford it, so I can't have it.

OP @loandbeholdd You seem to want jt all ways. You don't want to privately rent because you want the security of not having to move. But you don't want to buy because you don't want to be responsible for the upkeep of the property yourself. You also say private rent is too expensive even though you work full time and you could rent a 2 bed privately for £500 per month. But presumably that's more than you're paying so you don't want to pay it.

Well, I mean, that's life. You have to prioritise what you want and then pay for it. A second bedroom is a luxury. If you want it, you are likely to have to pay for it yourself.

Although, from the sounds of it, sounds like might soon be the winning bidder and get one from the council. In which case, good for you, but don't be surprised when it sticks in the craw of families with kids who are crammed into 1 and 2 bed properties, and you're sitting pretty with your empty guest bedroom.

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LaurieStrode · 01/11/2023 17:02

Maybe those families "crammed" into smaller dwellings should have been more responsible in their reproduction, eh?

Why is the OP getting lectures about "responsibility" and taking more than her share when there are millions of irresponsible procreators doing a lot worse!? Wishing for additional living space is nothing compared to producing offspring the rest of us have to pay for.

porridgeisbae · 01/11/2023 17:34

@Carpediemmakeitcount I live in Birmingham. If there are less female beggars that'd be because it's more risky in terms of risks of sexual assault and it just doesn't sound appealing.

Most beggars go home to their council flat at the end of the day with their 'earnings' for beer or heroin. Same in every city. Women as equally desparate for money for addictions are maybe in prostitution instead (as well as some begging.) But more men are drug/alcohol dependent.

Hostels won't accept drinking on the premises so almost anyone else on the streets is there because they know they wouldn't be able to use/drink in a hostel. There are loads of hostels.

Years ago I was made homeless, (about 2005) the random blokes at the neighbourhood office said I would be on the streets (I'm female- sex was not viewed as relevant, that would be illegal) but they gave me a long list of hostels. I did end up in temporary accom with the council in the end due to my health, the other hostels wouldn't take me. There's no need for anyone to be on the streets, except maybe one or two people who have severe MH problems and prefer it, and addicts who aren't willing to disguise their drinking/drug taking in a hostel so they get thrown out.

I assume your relative didn't have a recognised disability they accepted, so they didn't feel they had a duty to house or something like that. He could've gone to the private hostels and they would've helped him apply for help with housing. If someone said something about childless men being less likely to get help with housing than childless women, they're wrong about that. These decisions are mostly made by a machine rather than a human; the machine doesn't make it's decision based on someone's sex. Humans just have to deliver the verdict.

Pipistrellus · 01/11/2023 17:36

LaurieStrode · 01/11/2023 17:02

Maybe those families "crammed" into smaller dwellings should have been more responsible in their reproduction, eh?

Why is the OP getting lectures about "responsibility" and taking more than her share when there are millions of irresponsible procreators doing a lot worse!? Wishing for additional living space is nothing compared to producing offspring the rest of us have to pay for.

How should the children have been more responsible? Housing families is about housing children.

JenniferBooth · 01/11/2023 20:53

Speaking of housing children did anyone else on here see Daniel Hewitts latest report on housing last night. A single mum had to veto a place she was offered because her ex The CHILDS FATHER would not let her move him to another school. There were other reasons she couldnt take the new place she was offered, but i was gobsmacked how the father who cant or wont provide got this much control And there was definately a whiff of control about it.

Carpediemmakeitcount · 01/11/2023 23:20

I grew up in Enfield did you know a 45 year old from Enfield had triplets and was living in temporary accommodation. That is one place I don't miss.

LaurieStrode · 01/11/2023 23:25

Pipistrellus · 01/11/2023 17:36

How should the children have been more responsible? Housing families is about housing children.

Maybe we should claim back from the feckless parents by docking their pensions years down the road, for what their imprudence has cost the rest of us.

Begruding the OP some small luxury while mollycoddling the selfish, imprudent, thoughtless wasters is just galling.

user1477391263 · 01/11/2023 23:46

LaurieStrode · 01/11/2023 23:25

Maybe we should claim back from the feckless parents by docking their pensions years down the road, for what their imprudence has cost the rest of us.

Begruding the OP some small luxury while mollycoddling the selfish, imprudent, thoughtless wasters is just galling.

Er, the only reason anyone’s pension or retirement plan pays out, ultimately, is because someone somewhere chose to have children. Your state pension will only pay out because there are NI payers paying into it in the future. Your private defined-contribution pension if you have one will only pay out because younger people in the future will be contributing to future economic activities. You will only be able to sell your house for any sort of value in the future if there are enough younger people to constitute a market. You will only be able to get care in the future, as an old person, from the children that someone else chose to have. Etc. etc.

I think you need to pipe down and take yourself off this thread, because your comments are getting increasingly bizarre.

LaurieStrode · 02/11/2023 00:16

Actually, hardworking immigrants can pay into the pension scheme, too. Ad do millions of childfree people. Those who fecklessly produce offspring they cannot remotely support need to disabuse themselves of the notion that they are doing the rest of us some big favour.

Solo, childfree people like the OP deserve to have quality of life, too. Not just bare subsistence.

Ivegone · 02/11/2023 01:04

porridgeisbae · 01/11/2023 17:34

@Carpediemmakeitcount I live in Birmingham. If there are less female beggars that'd be because it's more risky in terms of risks of sexual assault and it just doesn't sound appealing.

Most beggars go home to their council flat at the end of the day with their 'earnings' for beer or heroin. Same in every city. Women as equally desparate for money for addictions are maybe in prostitution instead (as well as some begging.) But more men are drug/alcohol dependent.

Hostels won't accept drinking on the premises so almost anyone else on the streets is there because they know they wouldn't be able to use/drink in a hostel. There are loads of hostels.

Years ago I was made homeless, (about 2005) the random blokes at the neighbourhood office said I would be on the streets (I'm female- sex was not viewed as relevant, that would be illegal) but they gave me a long list of hostels. I did end up in temporary accom with the council in the end due to my health, the other hostels wouldn't take me. There's no need for anyone to be on the streets, except maybe one or two people who have severe MH problems and prefer it, and addicts who aren't willing to disguise their drinking/drug taking in a hostel so they get thrown out.

I assume your relative didn't have a recognised disability they accepted, so they didn't feel they had a duty to house or something like that. He could've gone to the private hostels and they would've helped him apply for help with housing. If someone said something about childless men being less likely to get help with housing than childless women, they're wrong about that. These decisions are mostly made by a machine rather than a human; the machine doesn't make it's decision based on someone's sex. Humans just have to deliver the verdict.

No one needs to be on the street?! What world do you live in?!

A hostel room in a homeless hostel here is £20 a night, £25 at the weekend. You don’t just rock up and they give you a room.

In Bristol the number of homeless people requiring shelter has got so high charities are loaning out tents and running shanty towns.

In Brighton you would be lucky to find an unoccupied doorway never mind an unoccupied room in a shelter.

Lndnmummy · 02/11/2023 01:11

It sounds very entitled. Im sure plenty of people would prefer to live in a house than a flat. I am one of them. Never in a million years have I expected someone else to finance it for me though. I can't afford to bit a house where I live. So I live in a flat.

Make it a home.

Ivegone · 02/11/2023 01:28

@loandbeholdd did you get the house? It looks great.

OhDoPutASockInItDear · 02/11/2023 01:32

Two bedrooms without any children is unlikely. You can but try though @loandbeholdd ! It can't hurt.

Pipistrellus · 02/11/2023 06:54

LaurieStrode · 01/11/2023 23:25

Maybe we should claim back from the feckless parents by docking their pensions years down the road, for what their imprudence has cost the rest of us.

Begruding the OP some small luxury while mollycoddling the selfish, imprudent, thoughtless wasters is just galling.

So the OP has one bedroom and living space to herself. Daisy, who left her abusive husband and fled with two young children has one bedroom (the children in the other) and shares a living space with her children. How is Dsisy being molly coddled and the OP begrudged?

Pipistrellus · 02/11/2023 06:59

Parents are not dancing around spacious two bedroom houses having conveniently mislaid their children. They have one bedroom as the children are in the other.

Comedycook · 02/11/2023 07:20

LaurieStrode · 02/11/2023 00:16

Actually, hardworking immigrants can pay into the pension scheme, too. Ad do millions of childfree people. Those who fecklessly produce offspring they cannot remotely support need to disabuse themselves of the notion that they are doing the rest of us some big favour.

Solo, childfree people like the OP deserve to have quality of life, too. Not just bare subsistence.

I don't think a one bed flat for a single person is bare subsistence. It's pretty standard in all sorts of situations from social housing to owning .

As for your comments comparing immigrants and feckless parents...you do realise that these two things are not always mutually exclusive? Some immigrants will have children and be reliant to some degree on the state. Some will be hard working...some will be on the make just like British people.

AvengedQuince · 02/11/2023 07:37

Comedycook · 02/11/2023 07:20

I don't think a one bed flat for a single person is bare subsistence. It's pretty standard in all sorts of situations from social housing to owning .

As for your comments comparing immigrants and feckless parents...you do realise that these two things are not always mutually exclusive? Some immigrants will have children and be reliant to some degree on the state. Some will be hard working...some will be on the make just like British people.

I'd be perfectly happy with a one bedroom flat when DS has left home, I'm one person so I only need one room to sleep in! It's hardly bare subsistence.

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