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Going on holiday tomorrow and I have covid ...

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navyplaint · 24/10/2023 07:36

Pretty much that
Going to Lanzarote tomorrow and woke up Sunday with sore throat.
Anyway yesterday I had a lots of phlegm and felt like I had a head cold.
Had a test lying around and it was a strong positive.
I've never had covid before but at the minute it feels like a cold.
No temperature and I haven't lost my appetite /don't feel sick or anything just feel like I have a head cold.
I feel guilty having to get on a plane with covid but if I don't go it's a £3000 holiday
I am okay now to go abroad with covid aren't I?

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navyplaint · 26/10/2023 11:13

@ttcat37 how do you explain me who had covid this week and now I'm actually fine?
How does this fit your narrative that every person who now catches covid is ill for 3 weeks ?
Am I a medical mystery ?
Or are you just avoiding the fact that most people are fine with just mild symptoms?

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Longma · 26/10/2023 11:15

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prescribingmum · 26/10/2023 11:15

@Lastchancechica maybe also read your own links as neither of them are suggesting more serious infection as you repeatedly keep claiming. They both discuss ability to spread and evade vaccines.

Only uneducated person here is you no matter how many insults you throw about

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about these subjects:

Lastchancechica · 26/10/2023 11:15

Delatron · 26/10/2023 10:57

I hate to break it to you but most people had their last vaccines quite some time ago. You won’t be getting much protection unless you get a booster every 6 months..

However, what has changed between now and 2020? Covid is not a novel virus that can rip through the population the same way. We have a combination of vaccine immunity and a bit of innate immunity in the population. Some people will still suffer a nasty illness but many won’t.

I for one am more worried about flu this year. Lockdowns didn’t help with immunity for that. And obviously we saw some nasty RSV cases in children and babies. Most people are disproportionately scared of Covid..

I am not scared of covid at all, but I do think we have a major problem on our hands this winter with this strain.

If you want to close your eyes to the reality of this, with a striking and worn out work force tasked with their third winter of covid battle that is entirely up to you.

This variant is much more severe, and much more like the first strain in my personal experience. It was terrible and we are healthy. Previous infections and vaccines made no difference to the severity. It doesn’t bring me happiness recounting this to you. It feels like it will never be over, and will keep reinventing itself. There is certainly no such thing as herd immunity.

navyplaint · 26/10/2023 11:16

@Lastchancechica
how can you then say everyone with this strain is ill?
how would you possibly say what people had what strain?
You have no actual facts do you

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Lastchancechica · 26/10/2023 11:16

navyplaint · 26/10/2023 11:13

@ttcat37 how do you explain me who had covid this week and now I'm actually fine?
How does this fit your narrative that every person who now catches covid is ill for 3 weeks ?
Am I a medical mystery ?
Or are you just avoiding the fact that most people are fine with just mild symptoms?

You have the ‘old’ mild strain and not the new one.

Longma · 26/10/2023 11:17

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prescribingmum · 26/10/2023 11:18

navyplaint · 26/10/2023 11:16

@Lastchancechica
how can you then say everyone with this strain is ill?
how would you possibly say what people had what strain?
You have no actual facts do you

Not a single one hence she resorts to throwing around insults and questioning others mental health if she doesn’t have a better response.

She posts random links which also don’t back up her ‘evidence’

navyplaint · 26/10/2023 11:18

@Lastchancechica how do you know that ?
How do you know I haven't got the new strain and I'm having mild symptoms
Just like the first covid strain people were ill and others no symptoms
You don't have a clue ...

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prescribingmum · 26/10/2023 11:20

Lastchancechica · 26/10/2023 11:16

You have the ‘old’ mild strain and not the new one.

Prove it. And while you’re at it, prove you had the ‘new’ one.

Without proof, you are just making unfounded assumptions.

Delatron · 26/10/2023 11:21

Lastchancechica · 26/10/2023 11:15

I am not scared of covid at all, but I do think we have a major problem on our hands this winter with this strain.

If you want to close your eyes to the reality of this, with a striking and worn out work force tasked with their third winter of covid battle that is entirely up to you.

This variant is much more severe, and much more like the first strain in my personal experience. It was terrible and we are healthy. Previous infections and vaccines made no difference to the severity. It doesn’t bring me happiness recounting this to you. It feels like it will never be over, and will keep reinventing itself. There is certainly no such thing as herd immunity.

I’m not closing my eyes to this. Every year there will be a new strain. I have a cold now. Maybe it’s Covid? Who knows.

I will take a balanced, logical, fact based view. Covid will circulate every year. Just like all other viruses. And I will treat it as such. It’s not special or novel anymore. ‘New variants’ - there are new variants of flu every year that also kill. Why aren’t you getting worked up about that?

Lastchancechica · 26/10/2023 11:24

I am on holiday too, having only just recovered (6 weeks in total we were all ill for) I still have periods of a racing heart of 140, chronic headaches and fatigue. I still can’t taste anything and happily lost half a stone. I am a million times better than what I was last month.

I don’t wish this newer strain on anyone. If I was cev I would take precautions and every vaccine offered to me.
No need for alarm but the fact that so many young, healthy people need medical intervention is not a good sign so early into winter. That’s it.

You can call it a cold, if you it makes you feel some level of comfort. For those hospitalised with the ‘cold’ it might feel offensive to use that term, for those that have lost loved ones worse still.

I am sure the data will be available soon.
It is shit. I know.

Longma · 26/10/2023 11:25

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prescribingmum · 26/10/2023 11:26

so many young, healthy people need medical intervention is not a good sign so early into winter

Once again, prove it. Where is your evidence to back up this so called fact? Until then, it is assumption. I’m not saying evidence won’t emerge later but at this stage, there is nothing to suggest more than previously are needing intervention

Lastchancechica · 26/10/2023 11:27

Delatron · 26/10/2023 11:21

I’m not closing my eyes to this. Every year there will be a new strain. I have a cold now. Maybe it’s Covid? Who knows.

I will take a balanced, logical, fact based view. Covid will circulate every year. Just like all other viruses. And I will treat it as such. It’s not special or novel anymore. ‘New variants’ - there are new variants of flu every year that also kill. Why aren’t you getting worked up about that?

Oh god, please, you have not thought this through have you.

Most people catch the flu once or twice in a LIFETIME.

As it stands now. Most of us are going to catch covid EVERY SINGLE YEAR indefinitely- and the impact to our lungs immune system, heart and other organs is totally unknown.

Its not remotely comparable.

DiaNaranja · 26/10/2023 11:29

People working in healthcare and other people facing roles (supermarkets etc) are being told to carry on going to work even with a positive test if they feel well enough, so people are likely to catch it anywhere now, not just on a plane. I had to work alongside two people who tested positive last week, as they were told they wouldn't get paid if they didn't go in, and they didn't feel ill enough to stay home. It is just being treated like any other virus now, and like others have pointed out, no one would forfeit a £3000 holiday for a cold, unless said cold, had rendered them bedridden.

FrenchandSaunders · 26/10/2023 11:30

Lastchancechica · 26/10/2023 10:25

Obviously it’s world wide duh.

6,631,663 people have died from covid and counting. Just think about that number. It’s absolutely enormous.

Then compare how many deaths from your average common cold and you will see how totally ridiculous and inaccurate it is to compare the two.

That is an awful lot of people, I'm not denying that.

But without sounding flippant that is still less than 0.1% of the world's population. Just think about that number!

ttcat37 · 26/10/2023 11:31

navyplaint · 26/10/2023 11:13

@ttcat37 how do you explain me who had covid this week and now I'm actually fine?
How does this fit your narrative that every person who now catches covid is ill for 3 weeks ?
Am I a medical mystery ?
Or are you just avoiding the fact that most people are fine with just mild symptoms?

Where did I say that every person who now catches covid is ill for 3 weeks?
You’re lucky that you have had mild symptoms. This is what is skewing your view that it’s mild and why you don’t care about giving it to anybody else. A lot of people are very ill. But as long as you got your holiday hey, fuck everyone else who might catch it and be seriously ill.

I’m out of this thread now. I’ve said everything so many times over and concluded that there’s just some really, really selfish people around, and I’m grateful that my people are nothing like that. I hope you all find a conscience when you’re ill and think about other people.

Lastchancechica · 26/10/2023 11:33

FrenchandSaunders · 26/10/2023 11:30

That is an awful lot of people, I'm not denying that.

But without sounding flippant that is still less than 0.1% of the world's population. Just think about that number!

It only the tip of the iceberg, these are just the official recorded numbers that died in hospital or healthcare facility.

Lastchancechica · 26/10/2023 11:36

ttcat37 · 26/10/2023 11:31

Where did I say that every person who now catches covid is ill for 3 weeks?
You’re lucky that you have had mild symptoms. This is what is skewing your view that it’s mild and why you don’t care about giving it to anybody else. A lot of people are very ill. But as long as you got your holiday hey, fuck everyone else who might catch it and be seriously ill.

I’m out of this thread now. I’ve said everything so many times over and concluded that there’s just some really, really selfish people around, and I’m grateful that my people are nothing like that. I hope you all find a conscience when you’re ill and think about other people.

Me too. It’s like talking to a brick wall. No getting through to them. It is probably from a place of fear. Denial is a coping strategy.
I hope your pregnancy goes well and you stay healthy and well 💐

Lastchancechica · 26/10/2023 11:44

Op have a great holiday and hope it’s a mild older strain.

TheRealMrsP · 26/10/2023 11:47

I would personally not go as most insurance companies will cover for covid if proven. If you still want to go then wear a mask in the airport and on the plane. That way you will reduce the risk of spreading this to other people who may have underlying issues.

My close friend had covid, very mild and now has long covid and is off work with no pay as her health is that bad. Be careful.

EasternStandard · 26/10/2023 11:48

Lastchancechica · 26/10/2023 11:36

Me too. It’s like talking to a brick wall. No getting through to them. It is probably from a place of fear. Denial is a coping strategy.
I hope your pregnancy goes well and you stay healthy and well 💐

It’s really not from a place of fear.

You sound really annoyed people prefer statistics and understanding

Delatron · 26/10/2023 12:09

Lastchancechica · 26/10/2023 11:27

Oh god, please, you have not thought this through have you.

Most people catch the flu once or twice in a LIFETIME.

As it stands now. Most of us are going to catch covid EVERY SINGLE YEAR indefinitely- and the impact to our lungs immune system, heart and other organs is totally unknown.

Its not remotely comparable.

Thought what through? The fact that Covid is not the only virus circulating every year? Flu circulates, multiple cold strains circulate, chicken pox, Norovirus. That’s life!

Like I said - there’s no escaping it. Though each time I have had Covid it has been milder and milder. I didn’t even realise last time. So no I’m not afraid. I am rational. It’s annoying there’s another virus circulating yes but nothing we can do other than be healthy and look after our immune systems.

You sound terrified! That’s no way to live.

Delatron · 26/10/2023 12:13

Lastchancechica · 26/10/2023 11:36

Me too. It’s like talking to a brick wall. No getting through to them. It is probably from a place of fear. Denial is a coping strategy.
I hope your pregnancy goes well and you stay healthy and well 💐

What do you want to ‘get through to us?’ To be terrified of each ‘new strain’ like you are?

The only people who sound scared and in fear on this thread are you and @ttcat37

I go about my daily life without giving Covid a thought now.

Anyway. Pleased OP didn’t lose £3k and is feeling better (after a mere few days) and hope she has a wonderful holiday!