Do we actually know who bombed the hospital in Gaza yet?

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I keep seeing mixed reports. It’s really unsettling not to know.

Oh yes but it's been stockpiling and using aid to build up an arsenal.

No outrage though hammas?? It's OK to have an accident is it in war and bomb your own desperate people by accident??

Anti Israel is not anti semitic.

Nobody is condemning them because at the moment there are only accusations that it was them. Independent bodies are working on looking for evidence as to who did it.

Thankfully, gone are the days when Hamas makes accusations, the world immediybelieves them and condemns Israel and by the time it's been realised it was actually lies and doctored video footage, only the original accusation is remembered.

The Irish government has condemned them since Day 1

Some of you really need to take a moment and reflect on how you would be feeling in this situation if you were on the 'other side'. I've been reading posts since this started and the lack of humanity is glaring.
Life is life and right now we should all be calling for a de-escalation and an end to this. Some of you seem to just be justifying actions, it really is hideous.

half the Spanish government as well which has caused the embassy to get pissed off

So who's condemned them since bombing the hospital?

The aid is waiting on border with Egypt ? People don’t seem to mention them though.

Could you provide examples when false accusations have been made against Israel and then spread by media as true and then later found to be false?

Oh, do not be disingenuous now!

It may or may not official official strategy - but the IDF has a long track record of striking civilian and medical targets.

For "the most moral army in the world" (their words, not mine!), they also have quite the astonishing tendency to suffer "unfortunate accidents" - almost as though they basically accepted high "collateral damage" or something! Leaflets are nice ... but, no, you do not get away with bombing and shelling civilian houses, claiming "oh, but we told them we might have to drop some explosives on them". The IDFs abuses against Palestinian civilians are well documented and go back years!

Look, I am on the record, on this very thread, as stating that, realistically speaking, we do not have confirmation of who bombed this specific hospital, specifically yesterday. And this implies that I am open to the possibility that, for once, the IDF might be innocent! But the IDF are not civilian-friendly. They do not even go to any special lengths to avoid civilian casualties.

If it's not Israeli strategy to bomb hospitals why did they ask for it to be evacuated and drop letters telling civilians to leave?

Precisely

Following as other threads have been deleted

they’ve just released verified footage showing it was a failed missile, fired from behind the hospital, aimed for Israel.

the likelihood of this now being proven to come from Israel is very low

Hamas and their extremist jihadi / Iranian allies being beacons of truth and freedoms of course.

You are just as gullible if you believe them.

Who believes videos anymore?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/who-bombed-hospital-gaza-israel-hamas-rgjqlmj68

quit a few experts saying it came from gaza.

From the IDF dossier, I wonder if they might be biased?!

No they both lie, stop making it one side vs another.
Israel did lie about the shooting of Shireen Abu Akleh. They admitted it themselves so why are you denying it?

Er no I think they examined things like crater size, damage, impact in pictures/footage and explained the difference between what Israel uses and whats here etc. A defence analyst, a weapons expert and a research fellow in airpower agreed. But you go ahead and believe Hamas…. You do that.

@Noicant they would say that wouldn't they, duh.

@Boundoverbyacat where is the verified footage from?

No you are completely right, a bunch of subject matter experts just went, “I could look at footage/pictures from a variety of sources to apply my knowledge and put my professional reputation on the line to try to solve this mystery that the entire world seems deeply interested in and has blown crisis talks off course…. Nah fuck it…I’ll just repeat what the IDF says”.

Maybe just maybe Hamas and Islamic Jihad just have shit rockets.

@Noicant if the Israelis hadn't announced that they planned to bomb the hospital I just possibly might have believed it wasn't them.

I can’t read it as needs login. However I can read the subtitle. If the experts rely on israel dossier then I’m not keen to trust them. It’s like saying some experts can proof it wasn’t hamas based on some hamas dossier
it needs to be someone completely independent doing the investigation