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Do we actually know who bombed the hospital in Gaza yet?

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Ididivfama · 18/10/2023 13:10

I keep seeing mixed reports. It’s really unsettling not to know.

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Turquioseblue · 18/10/2023 16:47

Luckydip1 · 18/10/2023 14:43

It was Israel of course, but now they are denying it because it make them look like monsters. Unless you believe that Gaza is bombing itself which is a little far fetched.

Rubbish. Why would Israel destroy a hospital in Gaza, knowing that it would cause outrage against them in the world's press? What do honesty think Israel would gain from it?

You have to ask, in whose interest is it to deliberately destroy the hospital?

Hamas of course. They have no regard for human life and know that it will look like Israel did it, and turn the public against Israel.

SomeCatFromJapan · 18/10/2023 16:49

Can anyone explain - how did the IDF get a hold of those (disputed) recordings (in stereo) of Hamas phone calls and not realise the big raid was about to happen and have their security breached so badly that hundreds of Hamas operative were able to glide in?

The terrorist attacks were years in the planning and probably only a few much higher-level members knew about them, they'd have been incredibly careful about communication.

The intercepted phone call was probably between two footsoldier types.

SoIRejoined · 18/10/2023 16:50

We have no way of knowing at the moment but it's entirely possible it was neither Hamas nor Israel and was done by Iranian agents in order to scupper Biden's visit.

TravelInHope · 18/10/2023 16:50

NotSuchASmugMarried · 18/10/2023 13:21

It's likely hamas. Russia does similar . There is no military advantage to Israel to destroy a hospital.

An accident? A misfired missile? A mistake?

BumWad · 18/10/2023 16:50

Remember when Israel denied shooting Shireen Abu Akleh and blamed it on the Palestinians?

They have form for this.

Of course it was Israel. You are all so gullible.

DoDoDoD · 18/10/2023 16:52

Turquioseblue · 18/10/2023 16:47

Rubbish. Why would Israel destroy a hospital in Gaza, knowing that it would cause outrage against them in the world's press? What do honesty think Israel would gain from it?

You have to ask, in whose interest is it to deliberately destroy the hospital?

Hamas of course. They have no regard for human life and know that it will look like Israel did it, and turn the public against Israel.

I don't understand why there isn't more outrage anyway. There have been 115 attacks on healthcare facilities so what do they gain from that?

Towerofsong · 18/10/2023 16:52

crumblingschools · 18/10/2023 13:31

The IDF are saying the only damage was to a car park by a misfired terrorist missile. How come so many dead then? Were they all sheltering in the car park?

Depends what else was stored in the building or car park, it is well known that Hamas store munitions in civilian areas.

Luckydip1 · 18/10/2023 16:55

BumWad · 18/10/2023 16:50

Remember when Israel denied shooting Shireen Abu Akleh and blamed it on the Palestinians?

They have form for this.

Of course it was Israel. You are all so gullible.

Exactly, they are full of BS

Noicant · 18/10/2023 16:55

I think if Israel had bombed a carpark they would have just shrugged and said “yeah we did”. They have been pretty unapologetic about any bombings so far.

I also don’t believe the numbers Hamas give out, as soon as something happens theres a press release with body count. Even with just a small area bombed it often takes days to verify how many people have been killed.

I think it probably was a misfire from Islamic Jihad. Apparently quite a few hamas bombs have fallen in Gaza already.

EvelynKatie · 18/10/2023 16:56

I understand people saying IDF have form for lying. Does this mean that we have to believe everything Hamas say going forward?

Towerofsong · 18/10/2023 16:57

NotSuchASmugMarried · 18/10/2023 13:32

Where are they saying that? Where did you read that?

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-hamas-gaza-explosion-hospital-b2431631.html

Trulywonderful · 18/10/2023 16:58

Turquioseblue · 18/10/2023 16:47

Rubbish. Why would Israel destroy a hospital in Gaza, knowing that it would cause outrage against them in the world's press? What do honesty think Israel would gain from it?

You have to ask, in whose interest is it to deliberately destroy the hospital?

Hamas of course. They have no regard for human life and know that it will look like Israel did it, and turn the public against Israel.

More like the timing worked way to will for Hamas. The meetings with between other leaders was happening today. Now as meeting with Israel or Biden would cause a riot to overthrow leaders in Jordan or Egypt this has suddenly been cancelled. The hospital bombing doesn't benefit Israel at all but does benefit Hamas. It also benefits their narrative and the great flood plan that Irans money is paying for. We know Iran is willing to kill any number of their own people. History has showed us this.

Alternative either Israel or Hamas misfired a missile or something. I am waiting on the evidence of an early investigation before I condemn one of them for this.

Trulywonderful · 18/10/2023 16:59

EvelynKatie · 18/10/2023 16:56

I understand people saying IDF have form for lying. Does this mean that we have to believe everything Hamas say going forward?

Apparently so.............

Hugosauras · 18/10/2023 16:59

Luckydip1 · Today 14:43

It was Israel of course, but now they are denying it because it make them look like monsters. Unless you believe that Gaza is bombing itself which is a little far fetched.

Why would it be a little far fetched for a home made pipe missile to misfire and cause such damage? Are you some sort of munitions expert? It seems that you are at odds with the majority on this thread who are actually looking for evidence and weighing things up. You don't want to. It is evident that you have chosen a side and therefore establishing the truth is irrelevant. It's lazy but also dangerous. It's also disingenuous because you seem to care more about your own ego and proving yourself to be right, than establishing the truth, whatever that may be.

EasterIssland · 18/10/2023 17:00

Turquioseblue · 18/10/2023 16:47

Rubbish. Why would Israel destroy a hospital in Gaza, knowing that it would cause outrage against them in the world's press? What do honesty think Israel would gain from it?

You have to ask, in whose interest is it to deliberately destroy the hospital?

Hamas of course. They have no regard for human life and know that it will look like Israel did it, and turn the public against Israel.

Unsure why would they want to destroy a hospital. However WHO has confirmed that the hospital had been requested to be evacuated with a few more. I take if they wanted to evacuate them that’s cuz they were a target

Towerofsong · 18/10/2023 17:01

EnoughIsay · 18/10/2023 14:22

Israel has already bombed that hospital a few days ago.

Israeli milliatry issued warings to over 70 hospitals to evacuate - they are going to bomb them.

That is consistent Israeli millitary strategy.

This is genocide.

It is NOT Israeli military strategy to bomb hospitals.

It IS Hamas strategy to store munitions and terrorist infrastructure under schools, hospitals and residential buildings.

Israel actively warns civilians by text messages and leaflet drops before they strike Hamas infrastructure in residential areas.

There is no reason why Israel would choose to strike a hospital, they have had a degree of support from the West the past 12 days, and would be foolish to risk losing that.

Struggggggling · 18/10/2023 17:01

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EvelynKatie · 18/10/2023 17:02

@EasterIssland Were Israel wanting to evacuate the hospital (which I don't think anyone agrees with!) and then bomb it because it's where Hamas will hide out/store weapons etc?

Struggggggling · 18/10/2023 17:02

Towerofsong · 18/10/2023 17:01

It is NOT Israeli military strategy to bomb hospitals.

It IS Hamas strategy to store munitions and terrorist infrastructure under schools, hospitals and residential buildings.

Israel actively warns civilians by text messages and leaflet drops before they strike Hamas infrastructure in residential areas.

There is no reason why Israel would choose to strike a hospital, they have had a degree of support from the West the past 12 days, and would be foolish to risk losing that.

They would do it and they did, and what support did they lose from the US and UK, none.
Which European country has condemned them, none.

They do it because they know they can get away with it

AlecTrevelyan006 · 18/10/2023 17:03

armies accidentally killing or maiming their own soldiers or civilians has happened for thousands of years. It will probably never be completely eliminated.

RoyalImpatience · 18/10/2023 17:03

Hammas. No crater etc.

Struggggggling · 18/10/2023 17:04

AlecTrevelyan006 · 18/10/2023 17:03

armies accidentally killing or maiming their own soldiers or civilians has happened for thousands of years. It will probably never be completely eliminated.

The only one with an army is Israel. Palestine doesn't have an army/navy/Air Force

Boundoverbyacat · 18/10/2023 17:05

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EasterIssland · 18/10/2023 17:05

EvelynKatie · 18/10/2023 17:02

@EasterIssland Were Israel wanting to evacuate the hospital (which I don't think anyone agrees with!) and then bomb it because it's where Hamas will hide out/store weapons etc?

No idea. They’ve not said it. But moving people out of a hospital is a war crime. I don’t say that. UN/WHO/AI say it

Luckydip1 · 18/10/2023 17:05

They openly said they're were going to bomb in the hospital, they couldn't care less and never have about what people think because they have an advance military, nukes and US support, as proven by Biden today.

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