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Do we actually know who bombed the hospital in Gaza yet?

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Ididivfama · 18/10/2023 13:10

I keep seeing mixed reports. It’s really unsettling not to know.

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swirlingabyss · 18/10/2023 21:35

For anyone interested, Breaking the Silence is an organisation of ex-IDF soldiers. They have all served in the Israeli military and decided to expose what they had to do, how they were made to behave towards Palestinians and turned against the IDF ideology because they were so disillusioned on what they saw and made to do. They campaign against the ideology of Zionism and the Israeli military behaviour/

https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/testimonies/database

https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/testimonies/videos

Some interesting testimonials and documentaries made by them that are worth watching for anyone interested.

Breaking the Silence › Testimonies

Breaking the Silence is an organization of veteran soldiers who have served in the Israeli military since the start of the Second Intifada and have taken it upon themselves to expose the Israeli public to the reality of everyday life in the Occupied Te...

https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/testimonies/database

RoyalImpatience · 18/10/2023 21:36

Unfortunately they don't understand what useful idiots are in the nicest way as its not a nice term.

swirlingabyss · 18/10/2023 21:38

@FreeCoathangers you might want to review some of the IDF ex military soldiers' testimonials I linked above.

immigrant002 · 18/10/2023 21:40

swirlingabyss · 18/10/2023 21:35

For anyone interested, Breaking the Silence is an organisation of ex-IDF soldiers. They have all served in the Israeli military and decided to expose what they had to do, how they were made to behave towards Palestinians and turned against the IDF ideology because they were so disillusioned on what they saw and made to do. They campaign against the ideology of Zionism and the Israeli military behaviour/

https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/testimonies/database

https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/testimonies/videos

Some interesting testimonials and documentaries made by them that are worth watching for anyone interested.

They will never watch that they close their eyes and say everyone hate us you have been radicalised ...

Jewish voice for peace is another one

instagram.com/jewishvoiceforpeace?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

I don't understand why the statement "ceasefire" let humanitarian aid in is so controversial !

HeidiInTheBigCity · 18/10/2023 21:42

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Way to jump to conclusions!

Neither AM I, nor have I ever been, a lecturer! Where have you got this from?

I said I "lectured" them - as in "I gave them a piece of my mind on how you do not get, as an over-priviledged fresher from fucking Brighton or something, to take the position of yeah, when my preferred maniacs kill people, that seems alright, though"

From your previous posts, I am extrapolating that you are, roughly, "pro-Israeli" - way to go on "what I had actually said was: I gave them a dressing down on the subject of, no, you do not get to glorify suicide bombings, you bloody naivelings!"

Talk about "way to lose people!"

Edit: on a conciliatory note, though: I can appreciate a fellow connaisseur of "rather niche logical fallacies".

FreeCoathangers · 18/10/2023 21:43

swirlingabyss · 18/10/2023 21:38

@FreeCoathangers you might want to review some of the IDF ex military soldiers' testimonials I linked above.

yeah, I might. However, for every link that you post, I can do the same or similar for Arabs

User8743 · 18/10/2023 21:44

Boundoverbyacat · 18/10/2023 20:03

@User8743 do you know who that actually is? An Israeli influencer. He has zero to do with the government of the IDF. Why are you sharing this as ‘proof.’ Did you think he was a politician or something?

Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu aide confirms bombing of Gaza hospital by Israel The aide, Hananya Naftali, made a public statement.

He has been a media advisor since 2018.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s new deputy social media adviser Hananya Naftali is a popular Israel advocate online, served in the Armored Corps, fought Hamas in Operation Protective Edge, and calls himself a Jew who loves Jesus.
Naftali was hired by Netanyahu’s social media adviser Topaz Luk, who says he “hired a superstar.”

https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/From-praising-Jesus-to-tweeting-Bibi-PMs-new-recruit-has-colorful-past-552612

I believe you are the one who doesn't know who he is.

FreeCoathangers · 18/10/2023 21:48

User8743 · 18/10/2023 21:44

Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu aide confirms bombing of Gaza hospital by Israel The aide, Hananya Naftali, made a public statement.

He has been a media advisor since 2018.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s new deputy social media adviser Hananya Naftali is a popular Israel advocate online, served in the Armored Corps, fought Hamas in Operation Protective Edge, and calls himself a Jew who loves Jesus.
Naftali was hired by Netanyahu’s social media adviser Topaz Luk, who says he “hired a superstar.”

https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/From-praising-Jesus-to-tweeting-Bibi-PMs-new-recruit-has-colorful-past-552612

I believe you are the one who doesn't know who he is.

Come now, you're not interested in the truth, you're only interested in half truth, lies and subterfuge, it's pretty much beyond doubt that the IDF didn't bomb the hospital. I honestly don't know whether that makes you sad.

Trulywonderful · 18/10/2023 21:49

FreeCoathangers

What I thought reading that too but didn't want to say

They have deleted it now I think. So maybe they have taken your advice and are seeking help 🤔

RoyalImpatience · 18/10/2023 21:53

Al jazzera are really showing their colours!!

Still reporting it as an Israel attack.

bedtimecake · 18/10/2023 21:54

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Boundoverbyacat · 18/10/2023 21:54

By your logic there are around 7 million Palestinians most of which are Muslims bank and Gaza. However billions more Muslims than that around the world. So plenty of them.Your logic is greatly floored!

eh? The question was ‘why are so many Jews in US protesting against Israel’s actions?’ I pointed out it was 500 out of 6.2 million. I genuinely don’t understand what you think you’re responding to?

FreeCoathangers · 18/10/2023 21:55

RoyalImpatience · 18/10/2023 21:53

Al jazzera are really showing their colours!!

Still reporting it as an Israel attack.

Hey, point of order, Al J are a respected and trusted news source......

.....Said all the Useful Idiots. UIs.

Boundoverbyacat · 18/10/2023 21:55

Also, why are so many posts being deleted for no apparent reason. It’s making discussion nonsensical

bedtimecake · 18/10/2023 21:55

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RoyalImpatience · 18/10/2023 21:57

@bedtimecake

One "side is carefully picking through the evidence, looking at the whole picture".
One side just yelled from the moment of the blast "it was Israel.... Wicked Israel".

Boundoverbyacat · 18/10/2023 21:58

These website of ‘repenting IDF soldiers’ are not verified. I really worry that people are losing their critical thinking and analysis skills. Who knows who wrote this website? Are the stories real? Are they written by Hamas?

FreeCoathangers · 18/10/2023 21:59

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I "pee at night" thanks to the West wanting to sort out shit between the Sunnis and Shias in the first gulf war, it never leaves me.

Look, if you post another video like that I'll start posting anti-Arab videos, ones that show 4 year olds being taught how to stab and kill Jews.

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Whats your evidence? Hamas said so?

Boundoverbyacat · 18/10/2023 22:01

@bedtimecake i mean even the Guardian have accepted it was unlikely to be Israel at this point. Give it up

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immigrant002 · 18/10/2023 22:02

Boundoverbyacat · 18/10/2023 21:58

These website of ‘repenting IDF soldiers’ are not verified. I really worry that people are losing their critical thinking and analysis skills. Who knows who wrote this website? Are the stories real? Are they written by Hamas?

Omg this hamas have immense powers they are everywhere
All these documentaries filmed in gaza clearly showing an open air prison are all sets ..

If you enter into a debate ask yourself will anything they say change my mind if the answer is no then do not enter it !

I am not sure who is radicalised here ! You are refusing to accept any wrongdoing by the israeli forces

Boundoverbyacat · 18/10/2023 22:03

@bedtimecake you don't ‘win’ a debate by attempting to put down the other person. You present facts.

At this point you’re practically having a nonsensical toddler tantrum

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