France has outlawed pro-palestinian demonstrations

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It's worried about the rise of anti-semitism. Do you think the same thing will happen here?

Anti-zionism is well established among ultra orthodox Jews in the diaspora. There are regular demonstrations against Israel by the Haredim in London.

Yes, it was all a huge mistake joining up and fighting Hitler. Those evil lying Brits just tricked us into it. They probably exaggerated the holocaust as well. 😂

No.
Im fact checking absolutely everything I see.
If the facts are there, if there’s evidence I will believe it as true.
There is nothing disgusting about making sure that what we are reading is true.
Thats common sense and the right thing to do.

And what everyone should be doing before they post on any forum.
Or even
Make their minds up about where they stand.

@Bigbrotherpropoganda - I doubt your story is true because a) it relates to WW1, and b) it was actually true, as verified by the German officers themselves.

That’s so funny.
At the time they had no idea what Hitlers grand plan was.
Even the Germans didn’t know what was going on.
Thats reporting after the fact.

@Bigbrotherpropoganda - since the allegations about German soldiers in Belgium commiting atrocities were true, would you like to apologise?

They didn't know exactly what was about to unfold, but they had a slight inkling that Hitler was up to no good. I don't know why. Perhaps it was that manifesto he put out saying that, amongst other things, he wanted to expand German territory and to exterminate the Jews?😂

@Itllbefine6 - wouldn't bother. You are dealing with someone who wants to spread misinformation

I know. I don't know why I'm laughing. It's just so ridiculous where this thread is going.

The simple truth, also hamas are threatening Palestinians, who wish to leave target areas, as advised by leaflet drops, they need them as propaganda shields, hamas must be wiped from the face of the earth, once and for all.

Good work France.

This statement always really bothers me because it works both ways. Israel has been encroaching on Palestine’s land and persecuting Palestinians for decades. If left unchecked, Israel would slowly remove all trace of Palestine.

It’s easier to have a sympathetic view to this because it’s done so covertly (and with the unwavering support of Western governments) but the end result is the same.

hamas threatening those who wish to evacuate!

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/now-is-time-war-says-israels-military-chief-2023-10-12/

The whole of the middle east wants israel gone. - Lebanon (lebanese immigrants to Australia marching and demanding gas the jews), Egypt, Jordan, Syria, now Iran. I don't know why this isn't mentioned. It used to be you couldn't get into the UAE etc if you had an Israelia stamp in your passport (could still be the case).
I don't know why this isn't mentioned - instead it is always reported as Rich cruel Israel and poor little Palestinians. The Palestinian situation could be eased overnight if some of the rich arab countries coughed up and helped them, also there could be land donated by egypt etc and decent states developed for both countries but the ME wants Israel gone. And are happy to let the Palestinians pay the price of refugee status, poor conditions.

Expressing support for a proscribed organisation is illegal. Unfortunately the police didn't do a lot to arrest those celebrating on Edgeware Road last weekend. Anti-semitism just isn't taken seriously.

What does the opinion of other Arab states have to do with the statement I made?

And what an odd statement re financial assistance. One Arab state in particular gives huge amounts of money to Hamas. It isn’t helping the situation, if anything it’s helping fund its escalation. How would you expect them to use money to get themselves out of this situation if not to use it to fight the Israeli’s?

Also why should Egypt give Palestine land so Israel can take theirs?

Except, in the case of Gaza, Israel withdrew completely from that land and then Gaza just attacked harder and elected Hamas.

I am not in agreement with continued building on the West Bank (although it is actually really hard to expand Jerusalem to meet it's populations needs when it is surrounded by about 280° by the West Bank ....a fair amount of 'settlement building' is an expansion of Jerusalem suburbs)

However let's be specific, this current situation is about Gaza, ruled by Hamas. The situation in the West Bank, ruled by the PA under Fatah, is somewhat different.

@Towerofsong Israel did not withdraw from Gaza in any meaningful way. They control the airspace, electricity and water. They also govern what goods go in and out of the region. This is how they have been so easily able to bring about the current siege.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2017/06/israel-occupation-50-years-of-dispossession/

“Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses - because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.”
Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1945.

Clearly from your posts nothing has changed.

@Bigbrotherpropoganda I don't understand why you need to do this? Where children murdered in their beds and nurseries in cold blood in the kibbutz's..... yes. Is there evidence whole families where massacred, burnt alive..... yes.
So what's the issue? Hama's apparently ordered their terrorists not to target civilians and they did. Blatantly.
Dead is dead.

You need to ask, why Egypt built walls to keep Palestinians out of the country, why that country will not open human aid corridors, you all know the answers.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/egypt-building-new-wall-along-gaza-border

That's utter bollocks. The IRA were infiltrated by MI5. Their attacks were no longer working. They were forced to come to the negotiating table because they had been defeated.

Hamas want the total destruction of Israel, and the extermination of every last Jew. You cannot negotiate with such extremists, it's futile. There can be no two-state solution while Hamas continues to hold power.

to use the biblical terms, Palestine was never a state, Canaan was.

The concept of a state did not exist in biblical times. Statehood is a modern concept.