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Thread 31 Sunak: Court, Conflicts and Complications

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DuncinToffee · 10/10/2023 08:40

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https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4898118-thread-30-sunak-no-trains-no-drains-no-point?page=40&reply=129806274

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newnamethanks · 23/10/2023 09:46

But the Bamfords have paid loads of money to the governing party, mostly to Mr and Mrs Boris, to be fair. So that's just the same as paying tax innit? Personally, I think the Bozos have shortchanged them.

Zonder · 23/10/2023 09:48

They spoke of chaos within the Home Office

Great. So they look like they might move her to number 10 instead to reward her for her good work?

RafaistheKingofClay · 23/10/2023 10:13

It’s like grayling and Shapps, just move them round to share the chaos.

And it would be quite difficult to cause more chaos than truss. That bar is very very low.

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DuncinToffee · 23/10/2023 10:47

https://x.com/BestForBritain/status/1716390412917629370?s=20

Hancock is now asking for immunity from procession before appearing in front of the @covidinquiryuk. How poetic that he is the one scared pants-less now.

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jgw1 · 23/10/2023 10:49

DuncinToffee · 23/10/2023 10:47

https://x.com/BestForBritain/status/1716390412917629370?s=20

Hancock is now asking for immunity from procession before appearing in front of the @covidinquiryuk. How poetic that he is the one scared pants-less now.

Why would he need immunity from prosecution unless he knows he is guilty of breaking the law?

Zonder · 23/10/2023 10:51

And if he has broken the law why should he get immunity? It's really one rule for them.

AdamRyan · 23/10/2023 11:43

I'm guessing he's got information to give that shows conspiracy to some crime. A bit like what's happening to Trump at the moment in Georgia.

Personally I think some kind of immunity to prosecution is a good way to encourage whistle blowing if the order came from the top.

I've aways felt Hancock was a scapegoat. And also a bit alarmed we never found out who was covertly filming in Govt buildings and why. Would seem to be a major security breach.

I dunno, I can see why people hate Hancock but I still remember him looking like he was going to puke at an early covid briefing and feel like he was genuine even if incompetent.

newnamethanks · 23/10/2023 11:55

Immunity? Oh why not ? Let them all have immunity, it's not as if any of them will pay any price at all eventually unless they can find a few civil servants to stick it to. It just gets madder and madder.

IClaudine · 23/10/2023 12:15

DuncinToffee · 23/10/2023 10:47

https://x.com/BestForBritain/status/1716390412917629370?s=20

Hancock is now asking for immunity from procession before appearing in front of the @covidinquiryuk. How poetic that he is the one scared pants-less now.

Has that tweet been deleted?

Zonder · 23/10/2023 12:42

Looks like it @IClaudine

Anyway I don't know what you all think you're doing on the other thread, trying to make people look at actual facts. Don't you know Johnson brought in the era of post-facts?

DuncinToffee · 23/10/2023 13:39

Yes it looks like the Hancock tweet has been deleted.

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RafaistheKingofClay · 23/10/2023 17:08

Be careful with facts. You don’t want to end up being accused of being a communist like @jgw1

jgw1 · 23/10/2023 17:35

RafaistheKingofClay · 23/10/2023 17:08

Be careful with facts. You don’t want to end up being accused of being a communist like @jgw1

Much easier to hunt for reds under the bed, than engage in a meaningful conversation about why there are so many empty homes in the UK, of which all estimates under count, because they are based on council tax returns and most councils will allow you a year of reduced tax at most, so why tell them it is empty after that? In addition it probably doesn't count the very many apartments in city centres that overseas investors have bought (sometimes to launder money) and are empty most of the year. But since the UK has no meaningful list of who owns which properties there is little if anything that can be done about it.

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DuncinToffee · 24/10/2023 09:06

https://x.com/Haggis_UK/status/1716710553429623161?s=20

Gillian Keegan wrote to all Schools saying parents have the right to know what their kids are being taught in sex education.

Ben Thompson: Why now?

Geoff Barton: Are we being put on the collective naughty step by the nation's deputy head girl or is this red meat

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Notonthestairs · 24/10/2023 09:59

The criminal bar association is tweeting in connection with a report in the Independent about the failures in the court system. Explains in part the backlogs. It was predicted but ignored.

"I can remember, once, a rape case got adjourned, and there were questions asked at the highest level – the CPS [Crown Prosecution Service] were absolutely spitting tacks. But it happens now all the time. Words fail me, really, because it was so predictable,” he said, writing in The Independent.
According to Mr Collier, the problem dates back to 2010, when the Tory-Lib Dem government began dramatically cutting the number of sitting court days, which have decreased from 110,000 a year to just 86,000 in 2020. The resulting reduction in the size of the criminal bar means that – despite ministers’ efforts to once again increase sitting days – there are now not enough barristers to work on cases and sit as part-time judges.”

https://x.com/thecriminalbar/status/1716735676597587991?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

https://x.com/thecriminalbar/status/1716735676597587991?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

Saucery · 24/10/2023 12:28

All Parents: we already have access to that info, but thanks Hmm

Is there NOTHING else Keegan could be doing rather than sending letters about the bleeding obvious?

jgw1 · 24/10/2023 13:03

Saucery · 24/10/2023 12:28

All Parents: we already have access to that info, but thanks Hmm

Is there NOTHING else Keegan could be doing rather than sending letters about the bleeding obvious?

I think perhaps the Education Secretary is unaware of the world wide web and that schools have websites.

Is she also unaware that the sky is blue?

itsgettingweird · 24/10/2023 13:40

The Tory MP sent out today couldn't answer whether any schools had refused to give the information. Or felt they couldn't due to copywriter. (The concerns they'd published)

Just a survey from parents said some were concerned what was being taught because they hadn't seen the information.

So apparently this is the mobile phones letter all over again.

DuncinToffee · 24/10/2023 13:42

Government set to axe cap on banker's bonuses, meanwhile a million children are destitute according to the Joseph Rowntree Foundation,

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jgw1 · 24/10/2023 13:50

itsgettingweird · 24/10/2023 13:40

The Tory MP sent out today couldn't answer whether any schools had refused to give the information. Or felt they couldn't due to copywriter. (The concerns they'd published)

Just a survey from parents said some were concerned what was being taught because they hadn't seen the information.

So apparently this is the mobile phones letter all over again.

The only thing that surprises me now is that Sunak hasn't yet announced again that he is scrapping the meat and two veg tax. Normally each announcement is done many times, how many times did Boris announce that he was building the same 40 fictitious hospitals?

Zonder · 24/10/2023 15:43

jgw1 · 24/10/2023 13:03

I think perhaps the Education Secretary is unaware of the world wide web and that schools have websites.

Is she also unaware that the sky is blue?

To be fair it's pretty grey today. Perhaps that's what has confused her.

RafaistheKingofClay · 24/10/2023 17:06

DuncinToffee · 24/10/2023 13:42

Government set to axe cap on banker's bonuses, meanwhile a million children are destitute according to the Joseph Rowntree Foundation,

Not that I’m bitter about my payrise, but won’t that cause inflation if bankers get paid more?

Zonder · 24/10/2023 17:19

Oh @RafaistheKingofClay have you learned nothing? They get a different kind of pay rise so it's ok.

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