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School dinner ladys wearing uniform in playground

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Euribia · 26/09/2023 10:12

I work at a local primary school where I know a few parents who are dinner ladys i keep noticing they wear their uniform when dropping their own kids off and then they go home and then come back at lunchtime. Do you feel this is appropriate. Im not sure whether to mention it to our head

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Grumpyold · 26/09/2023 13:11

Dixiechickonhols · 26/09/2023 13:10

All McDonald’s staff wear their uniform to work not change there where dc works. There’s rules about no false nails and no earrings and hair tied up but nothing about wearing uniform outside premises. They pop out to cars in car park with some orders anyway.

Yes, they're not allowed to wear their aprons outside (or too the loo) but everything else is worn all day. The same applies in our school kitchen.

WillowCraft · 26/09/2023 13:11

Iudncuewbccgrcb · 26/09/2023 11:23

If they are preparing school lunches how do they have time to go home?

Even if its all preprepared by outside catering someone still has to be in the kitchen a good few hours before dinner to open all the packets and heat it up and have it ready for serving, put out tables and chairs out, jugs of water etc.

our school cook makes everything from scratch and is in from early morning baking shortbread, making bread, making pastry, chopping veg, layering lasagnes, chopping and peeling spuds, making up the salad bar etc.

She also prepares all the fruit/milk etc for morning snack time. It's a full on job and not just a turn up a few mins before the lunch bell goes type thing and that's for a small rural primary.

They bake their own bread in your school?? Wow that's impressive

herethereandeverywhere · 26/09/2023 13:15

My mum was a dinner lady - she and the team got in trouble with the health inspector for exactly this. Outdoor clothes should not be worn in the kitchen (and vice versa). It's bringing all of the germs and contaminates of the outside to a food preparation and serving area (paraphrase of inspector's words).
Same reason why I feel yuk if I see a chef in his/her whites outside the back door having a fag.
OP you've been unfairly derided here I think - although whether you want to be the one who points it out to the head/kitchen/environmental health inspectors is another matter.

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WillowCraft · 26/09/2023 13:15

I don't think working a in a school kitchen is anything particular to show off about. Maybe if it was a NASA uniform or a judge's wig?

Also don't they spend the morning cooking the food? Rather than go home for any length of time?

Hygiene wise presumably they wear an apron of some sort that stays within the school kitchen, other than that I don't think it's a problem to wear the same trousers etc.

Iloveshoes123 · 26/09/2023 13:15

Who cares - you think they are just showing off that they are dinner ladies because it's such a coveted role! Give them a break they are working minimum wage for a couple of hours a day. You must be a right misery.

Fallingthroughclouds · 26/09/2023 13:15

EverythingYouDoIsaBalloon · 26/09/2023 13:11

Some people clearly think they're hilarious on this thread. They're not.

Definitely a matter of opinion, I and others have been in stitches about some of these comments. If you can't see the humour in being accused of showing off for wearing a dinner lady uniform, (and the subsequent replies) like they are prancing round the playground trilling "look everyone, look at me", then I feel a bit sorry for you........or we just don't share the same sense of humour, that's fine. We're all different, let people enjoy a giggle.

Ps name change by any chance?

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/09/2023 13:17

Iudncuewbccgrcb

our school cook makes everything from scratch and is in from early morning baking shortbread, making bread, making pastry, chopping veg, layering lasagnes, chopping and peeling spuds, making up the salad bar etc.
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She also prepares all the fruit/milk etc for morning snack time. It's a full on job and not just a turn up a few mins before the lunch bell goes type thing and that's for a small rural primary.”

Thats remarkable. A state school?

Iloveshoes123 · 26/09/2023 13:17

Oh and our dinner ladies don't cook, they give out prepared meals which is the case in lots of schools so they cooking/hygiene comments may not even be relevant!

Myfabby · 26/09/2023 13:17

herethereandeverywhere · 26/09/2023 13:15

My mum was a dinner lady - she and the team got in trouble with the health inspector for exactly this. Outdoor clothes should not be worn in the kitchen (and vice versa). It's bringing all of the germs and contaminates of the outside to a food preparation and serving area (paraphrase of inspector's words).
Same reason why I feel yuk if I see a chef in his/her whites outside the back door having a fag.
OP you've been unfairly derided here I think - although whether you want to be the one who points it out to the head/kitchen/environmental health inspectors is another matter.

she is being derided because she said they are showing off/seeking attention

Daffodilsandtuplips · 26/09/2023 13:17

I was a “School meal supervisor” aka Dinner Lady, ‘playground division’. we wore Bright Green nylon coveralls.
The kitchen Dinner Ladies wore white cotton cover alls with green and white striped aprons, white hats with hair nets. White shoes.
The Playground division started work fifteen minutes before school lunch Time and ended fifteen minutes after so 90 minutes in total.
The Kitchen staff started at 9.00 am, prepping, preparing cooking the food, some foods were pre prepped in a central kitchen then distributed to schools to be cooked or te heated, depended on what was on the menu. They rotated, one day a group would be on the hatch, serving the food, the next they’d be in the kitchen. After lunch they cleared up, washed everything down, leave samples of the days food out for environmental health to collect for analysis for food hygiene purposes.
Food hygiene was taken very seriously. Clean overalls every day, washed at least 60 degrees.

WillowCraft · 26/09/2023 13:18

herethereandeverywhere · 26/09/2023 13:15

My mum was a dinner lady - she and the team got in trouble with the health inspector for exactly this. Outdoor clothes should not be worn in the kitchen (and vice versa). It's bringing all of the germs and contaminates of the outside to a food preparation and serving area (paraphrase of inspector's words).
Same reason why I feel yuk if I see a chef in his/her whites outside the back door having a fag.
OP you've been unfairly derided here I think - although whether you want to be the one who points it out to the head/kitchen/environmental health inspectors is another matter.

There's not a changing area in a school kitchen though is there. Where would they get changed? The toilets?

Iloveshoes123 · 26/09/2023 13:20

unique78 · 26/09/2023 12:47

Dinnerladies are supposed to bring their workwear to school, get changed at school (usually in a changing room off the kitchen), and when their shift ends they are supposed to change back into their normal clothes and take their workwear home to wash daily. They are also supposed to leave their work shoes at work.

It's all about hygiene and cross contamination, and the kitchen staff would (usually) be in big trouble if they hung around outside the school building in their uniform. Schools/catering firms are generally pretty strict about this policy.

Not yours OP though, by the sound of it! People are mocking you, but if you're serving a child with a severe allergy, accidental cross contamination can be very serious.

Maybe those are the rules where you are but I know for a fact they aren't the rules in our school. They come in dressed and wear an apron. They are handing out pre-prepared meals. The op wasn't concerned about hygiene she just thought the dinner ladies were showing off by earing the uniform. I suspect they are just tight for time and so get dressed into it first thing rather than changing.

Daffodilsandtuplips · 26/09/2023 13:21

School staff room had a small changing area in the school I was in but the uniforms were coveralls worn over clothing, the coveralls were clean on every day.

Iloveshoes123 · 26/09/2023 13:24

mayorofcasterbridge · 26/09/2023 12:04

God the snarky responses here! Hope you all feel good about yourselves.

It's my understanding that dinner staff are supposed to change into their uniform at work, for hygiene reasons. The kitchen supervisor should be dealing with this.

Perhaps people should refrain from commenting on things they know nothing about!!

Or maybe you should - I don't think you know the policy for the whole country. Definitely not a requirement for dinner ladies where my kids go to school.
Also, the op was clearly put out because she felt the dinner ladies were getting kudos for wearing their uniforms and she wanted to report this to the headteacher - she deserves every single snarky response she gets.

mumofmanybusykids · 26/09/2023 13:25

I had to Google what a reverse was the other day when someone mentioned it on a post (I'm so not mumsnet-clued-up yet)... But....have I found one here? OP is dinner lady and some other mum has complained that they think OP is showing off by wearing her dinner lady uniform at school drop off time? 🤔

Oakdog · 26/09/2023 13:25

I worked in a school kitchen briefly a couple of years ago. We absolutely had to get changed into our uniform at the school (in the kitchen toilets). No one told me about this, and decided it was a good idea to severely tell me off for it. One of the many reasons I left.

EverythingYouDoIsaBalloon · 26/09/2023 13:29

Fallingthroughclouds · 26/09/2023 13:15

Definitely a matter of opinion, I and others have been in stitches about some of these comments. If you can't see the humour in being accused of showing off for wearing a dinner lady uniform, (and the subsequent replies) like they are prancing round the playground trilling "look everyone, look at me", then I feel a bit sorry for you........or we just don't share the same sense of humour, that's fine. We're all different, let people enjoy a giggle.

Ps name change by any chance?

No, I'm not a sock puppet, and I have a very good sense of humour, but thank you for your interest.

I just happen to think 'letting people enjoy a giggle' at someone else's expense is immature and bitchy. Some of the posters on this thread are coming off like school playground bullies tbh. If you think it's fine to sneer at other people in the guise of a so-called 'giggle' then we definitely don't share the same sense of humour, and I'm glad of it.

And if you've really been 'in stitches' over this thread, you need to get out more.

TobiasForgesContactLense · 26/09/2023 13:30

Everyone seems to have missed that this is a primary school where children spend 50% of their time shoving their fingers into each others noses and ears. I doubt a few more germs are going to make a difference when the places are already a soup of horror.

Buxtonwaters · 26/09/2023 13:34

In which case I can only assume she’s jealous because she doesn’t have a school polo shirt. As a colleague she could see this as a positive endorsement of their shared workplace.

Fallingthroughclouds · 26/09/2023 13:36

EverythingYouDoIsaBalloon · 26/09/2023 13:29

No, I'm not a sock puppet, and I have a very good sense of humour, but thank you for your interest.

I just happen to think 'letting people enjoy a giggle' at someone else's expense is immature and bitchy. Some of the posters on this thread are coming off like school playground bullies tbh. If you think it's fine to sneer at other people in the guise of a so-called 'giggle' then we definitely don't share the same sense of humour, and I'm glad of it.

And if you've really been 'in stitches' over this thread, you need to get out more.

Oh here she goes. If you are complaining about who is being immature and bitchy then maybe reread the OP's original posts (unless you wrote them). Plus you seem full of vitriol so not sure it's any of us with the problem.

I find a lot of things funny and I like being amused. Saying you have a good sense of humour doesn't really rimg true, and not a good defense in your case.

By the way I really don't care but

"And if you've really been 'in stitches' over this thread, you need to get out more"

is bitchy....and snide. I have no doubt you can't see it because, that's what bitchy, hypocritical people are usually like.

dutysuite · 26/09/2023 13:36

It they are kitchen staff then yes I think it's unhygienic, if they are dinner hall staff telling the children to line up and clear their plates then I wouldn't be so bothered.

Fixyourself · 26/09/2023 13:36

I'm guessing your PFB has just started reception!

Begsthequestion · 26/09/2023 13:37

Get a real problem ffs

Peaceandquietfinally · 26/09/2023 13:40

ClusterFukt · 26/09/2023 10:37

There’s always one snakey fucker in the workplace running to the boss about the pettiest and most pointless shit. If you have headspace for this you’ve got too much time on your hands.

HNRTFT but this in a nutshell!

Daffodilsandtuplips · 26/09/2023 13:40

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Thank you for acknowledging school dinner ladies hard work in helping children. School dinner halls can be a big and noisy scary place when your’e four/five, presented with food you’ve probably never seen before, sat with people you’ve only known for a short time and just want your mum.
I loved my job and even now some of my charges remember me if I’m at the shops etc.

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