Thread 30 Sunak: No trains, no drains, no point

[DuncinToffee]

As suggested by the lovely Pointythings and her feisty cat army

We continue

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4873009-thread-29-sunak-borders-barges-and-bacteria?page=40&reply=129254108

As I posted earlier - the sad fact is that it's true.

The even sadder fact - and what makes me angry - is that pupils and parents have come to accept modular part time buildings as acceptable because they are better. Rather than asking the question which should asked - why? Why have we allowed our schools to become so depleted and why are we accepting that as standard and normal.

Makes me so

I’m not sure the Tories have been particularly bothered by what is and isn’t allowed so far. At least this thing that isn’t allowed might actually be within the law.

I’m wondering how many on the portakabin thread will feel the same way once winter kicks in and it’s cold.

I'm going to have to up the dose of my blood pressure meds to watch that speech. I only got a few moments in before the rage took hold. He opened by bullshitting about how he is progressing with his 5 pledges. He's on track to achieving them all apparently. Then started blathering on about the need for honesty in politics. Great, how about you lead by example and STOP FUCKING LYING!

... and breathe.

It was an unusually good speech…for him.

His new five bullet points are horseshit though.

I did notice the liberal use of ‘this government will never make you..’. It’s been highlighted over the tories time in office that ‘this government’ is a very specific and transient thing. I also didn’t warm to his ‘well I’m prime minister so we’ll do what I say’ vibe. The whole thing has an air that it’d been formulated with lots of input from his daughters.

They probably won't. The sad real experience for many is that the portacabins are heated beautifully.

It's just that people seem happy to accept temporary classrooms which ultimately cost more as need replacing frequently (think it's a 10 year life they have) rather than the long term investment if the actual buildings.

But hopefully with the new slogan Tory's are actually planning that ..... 🤔

<disclaimer ..... I do t for one minute actually think they have any intention of improving education or the buildings or the nhs or anything>

What was this about a tax on meat?
When was this proposed?

I dont remember anything about it. Are they just making up things they might have decided to tax and then confirm they won't after all? Like they are doing us a massive favour?

Nice to see they are still pretending they are a brand new government totally unconnected to those dipstick other conservatives.

One of the Conservatives’ biggest ever donors has profited from £135m of contracts with the Department of Health and Social Care in under four years.
Frank Hester, a healthcare tech entrepreneur whose company supplies computer systems to the NHS, gave Rishi Sunak’s party £5m this summer, the joint biggest donation to the Tories in decades.
His company, the Phoenix Partnership (TPP), paid out more than £20m in dividends between 2019 and 2022, with Hester the only shareholder.
The group supplies software to about 2,700 GP surgeries in England as well as support services to allow them to hold medical records for patients electronically.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/sep/20/one-of-tories-biggest-ever-donors-frank-hester-profited-from-135m-of-nhs-contracts

Keeping it in the donor family.

We really need a new rule where donating to a party exempts you or any linked companies where there may be a conflict of interest from receiving a government contract.

We don't just need rules.

We need a rule that you must stick to the rules.

It's getting out of control now to the point it scares me democracy is disappearing.

Did anyone listen to Sunak's interview on Today? Nick Robinson had a field day with the Seven bins, meat tax nonsense.

Maybe the mumsnet coup collective could go down go Downing Street with bins aloft!

Sophie Ridge had a field day with Alex Chalk about it on Sky last night. We’ve essentially reached the point where they are campaigning on scrapping imaginary policies.

I wondered about the meat tax thing, too. So it was never even a policy?

We have 7 bins. Plastic recycling, green recycling, general waste, food caddy and 3 cardboard bins.
So I'm worried he's coming after my cardboard bins.

It was obviously a huge balls up yesterday despite the r/w headlines. It was clearly pulled together at the last moment and they've laid themselves wide open with their nonsense meat ban/forced car sharing etc.

I'm continually surprised at how badly they manage policy announcements.

But good news - Tony Abbott has been appointed to the Board of Trade. Tony Abbott is a director of the Global Warming Policy Foundation which suggests climate change is positive. Alongside him in GWPF is Lord Frost, Andrea Jenkyns and Allison Pearson. No idea how Jenkyns squared that with supporting Johnson but I guess ethics & consistency are in short supply.

"DeSmog has previously revealed that the Conservative Party received £3.5 million in donations from fossil fuel interests and climate science deniers in 2022, while two-thirds of the directors in charge of the party’s multi-million-pound endowment fund have a financial interest in oil, gas, and highly polluting industries."

www.desmog.com/2023/09/20/director-climate-science-denial-group-global-warming-policy-foundation-tony-abbott-reappointed-board-of-trade-adviser/

They were all just mere suggestions, like something thought up during brainstorming sessions is seems

Here is a segment of the R4 interview

https://x.com/Haggis_UK/status/1704765378784604435?s=20

No. But it might have been one day. So that's the important thing.

Off topic but the NHS workforce plan requires significant recruitment & training of nurses & doctors.

@Worrying 12% fall in acceptances to study nursing in UK…miles adrift of NHS Workforce Plan recruitment targets - my latest via @ft @SarahNev @amy_borrett

Number of UK nursing students plummets despite NHS shortages on.ft.com/3t6L3ne"

x.com/pmdfoster/status/1704748134717436029?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

Er, have we got a President now? We used to have a system where policy was introduced to Parliament before being inflicted on the public didn't we?

DuncinToffee thanks. That snippet is just, as the young 'uns say, cringe.

Hoisted by his own petard.

There really is an air of desperation now. They’ll do anything if they think there’s a vote in it.

What total desperation from Sunak scrapping non policies as a vote winner. There'll be ppl out there going OMG SEVEN bins, I can't cope with that, good old Rishi, I'll vote for him!
But anyone with half a brain cell can see his game!

Memo Badenoch was on Sky this morning saying how wonderful this backtracking on green issues was. She's very robotic and will need a motherboard reset soon

Well she did say not to listen to Zac Goldsmith because he is too rich.......

Neither was the car sharing thing.

It's 'The Thick of it' gone mad!

We have three bins. I'd like more, please.