Thread 30 Sunak: No trains, no drains, no point

[DuncinToffee]

As suggested by the lovely Pointythings and her feisty cat army

We continue

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4873009-thread-29-sunak-borders-barges-and-bacteria?page=40&reply=129254108

Right back at ya! You lot keep me sane. 🥰

@IClaudine your mischief is working well. I salute you.

And owning a car isn't aspirational, it's essential in a country with shit public transport. The solution isn't to axe all green policies, it's to improve public transport, invest in cleaner cars and stop the drive to 'return to the office' in the name of presenteeism.

I don't think appealing to motorists is going to be the electoral panacea OP on that thread thinks, though. Polling suggests otherwise.

I know I keep saying this but they seem to be completely ignoring younger people. The top concern of Gen Z is the environment and climate change and they’re alienating them. It looks like crass stupidity to me just at the time they’re becoming able to vote.

There’s an awful lot of crass stupidity about in the Tory party.

You’d think that alienating all of the centre right and swing voters in favour of winning the tiny number of people who might vote reform would be obviously stupid but here we are.

Whats making me laugh the most is that most people can't stand Sunak for all the reasons he says not to vote Labour!

My ds is 19. He's incredulous at his current plan to scrap anpr cameras. He says he doesn't want to live in a country that gives a green card for criminals to speed and cross counties without being caught.

He's surer about his future voting intentions than I ever was at his age.

That’s testimony to your parenting @itsgettingweird. You’ve done a good job.

@BIossomtoes I was on a Covid thread last night and laciccia or whatever she’s called has it too, very ill with it don’t you know. Would she blame the Government for anything related to Covid ? Nope. The government hadn’t done anything wrong whatsoever….

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inews.co.uk/news/politics/rishi-sunak-boris-johnson-covid-inquiry-evidence-matt-hancock-hard-truths-2653877

Theresa May opposes Rishi Sunak plans to scale back HS2

She can’t be that ill if she can type nonsense all day long!

On a side note, I read Katharina Blum for my German SYS at school! I only remember snatches of it... communists? East Germany? Red Army Faction? I may be getting it confused with Die Neuen Leiden des Jungen W.

And like clockwork, there is a thread about Hunt's plans for disability benefits, which has been in the news today. One charmer has suggested people clean off graffiti in return for their PIP payments.

And another poster who claims to be disabled themselves is supporting that. It's typical simplistic, offensive Tory thinking. Getting disabled people into work that is sustainable for them in terms of their health, their continuity of income and the needs of their employer is actually going to cost money. That's not to say it shouldn't be done - it should - but it isn't what this government is about.

My DS (the one who gets PIP) has found a job. It's 20 hours a week reception work in a care home, but the kicker is that it's in a shift pattern that will give him a maximum of 4 consecutive days at work, followed by a minimum of 6 consecutive days off. This will allow him to recover and not aggravate his pain and fatigue. It's great for him, and would have been no use to most people.

And jobs like that are like hens' teeth, and will remain so.

pointythings that's brilliant news about your son. I am really pleased for him and you.

My husband worked for as long as he absolutely could (and had to fight with his employer to get reasonable adjustments etc) and still would, but it just not possible now. That is why that thread is really giving me the rage so will ignore it now.

They really are hard of thinking aren't they. How would my old neighbour clean graffiti? She has 2 carers 24/7. She can't feed herself, move herself, toilet herself. But let's get her up a ladder to earn the pittance she gets to live on.

Great news for your ds pointy

My ds gets PIP and works 3 days a week because he also does sport and is funded for that.

My ds pip doesn't cover him not to work it covers the extra costs involved in having a MND. Those who get PIP who can't work are hardly going to be in a position to clean graffiti 🤦🏼‍♀️

Thanks, everyone. I'm so pleased. And my foster son had his first day at work today - he has autism, ADHD and some physical health issues and has started a flexible p/t job as a games tester (D&D and tabletop type gaming). He loved it. The workforce is highly diverse, including neurodiverse.

But again, another hens' teeth job. I wish people would look into the complexities of supporting people with disabilities to work instead of trotting out what is basically the workhouse solution.

Brilliant news @pointythings. Really pleased for both your boys.

Lovely update Pointy

The Tory infighting continues

https://news.sky.com/story/rishi-sunak-mocked-in-leaked-whatapps-as-grassroots-tories-vow-to-go-to-war-with-partys-liberals-12973419

Thanks Duncin. I particularly like this bit:

Many have given up winning the next election, with one saying "we're gunna (sic) be out of power for a lot longer than 4 years and giving (sic) the cultural shift we may never get back in".

It's true the cultural shift could be their downfall.

All ds and his mates are of boring age now ready for next GE and they all stated they would NEVER vote Tory.

And interestingly they are also GC, many are embarrassed to be of their generation and most are in jobs like tech and will be higher rate tax payers in a few years.

I do have hope for this country 🤞

IClaudine** can I be the first to congratulate you on the fact you are personally going to fuck the economy by 2070?

As an aside anyone else finding those promoting and protecting the Tory's becoming increasingly patronising towards those who disagree with them. There's an absolute undercurrent of "if you aren't Conservative, won't bite conservative - you're thick"