American Bully XL to be banned by end of year

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Rishi Sunak has just announced these dogs are to be banned.

Good riddance - who needs a big aggressive dog like that? It’s hardly a family pet.

I do however suspect the ven diagram of ‘people that own an American Bully XL’ and ‘people who will be interested in following this law’ may have a limited overlap however.

I am so very sorry you had to witness that- I don't know how you could ever get over the sight or sound of something so beyond appalling.
I detest these brutes.

One of the massive pitbulls 'Nico' who is related to most of the UK XL's slaughtered a sweet 4 yr old, and hardened American police needed counselling after witnessing the scene.

The ''apologists'' they have the attitude of ''Our fur baby's our bully's -we have 18 puppy's to sell, , why should our baby's be muzzled, they are a big softy's '' {Mandatory pic with small children with brutes}

I wish there was a way you could erase this from your mind, but it will probably be with you for a long time as a form of PTSD.

They need to be eradicated.

Dead eyed brutes, without a modicum of warmth or intelligence in their eyes.

@oakleaffy thank you, I completely agree with you and it had crossed my mind that PTSD could be something I'll need to be on the lookout for as I really don't see how I can ever forget what I saw. I've just got a constant gnawing in my stomach and even hearing a dog bark makes me physically tense up now. I'm dreading ever seeing one of these dogs in the street, especially if my baby is with me. Its outrageous that women will have these beasts anywhere near their kids, I can't understand that mindset at all

Did anyone's see the awful itv breakfast show clip or owners of these dogs?
Richard madly said "they are always loving family pets until the one day they are not and it's too late".
It's was a massive dog and looked caged in his teeny living room. Of course they said its a wonderful family dog for their boys

@Devilsmommy I had a nasty incident with an XL Bully recently {nothing at all like your horrific experience} but it caused me a lot of stress, so much that I am anxious to go out with my small, quiet, well behaved dog, and when I do, I carry a heavy stick- but that would be hopeless against one, never mind two.

There is something brutal about these things.They are not like normal dogs. They are a hippo, the strength of them is immense.

Re your PTSD ,years ago I witnessed a couple of horrible things- {Fatal} and cannot get them from my mind.

It's as if in times of great stress, our brains take in minutely what is going on, in a ''hyper reality'' - sounds, colours, textures, people's expressions- it is as if imprinted on our minds for ever.

What you witnessed , no person should witness.

One normally wouldn't see such things like you witnessed unless one was at War, or out in the wilds somewhere , being attacked by crazed animals.

One wouldn't expect it near your home, where you should be feeling safe.

I expect you won't be the only one requiring trauma counselling.

Hope it is made available to you .

Just googled...
Unbelievable.

It's on. a harness and leash in their front room..shows how untrained it is.
A well trained dog would sit and not need restraint.

They said 'Any breed can switch'..

Most decent dogs give a warning growl, they don't launch at someone and kill them, and the bite style is different with these Bull breeds.

Here is the couple and the harnessed leashed {indoors!} ticking time bomb.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/xl-bully-owners-clash-richard-27736067

Is it just me , or do all of these horrible dogs look like " Azog the defiler " ? . The owners of these dogs are fucking delusional.

This is really depressing- and I think you are right in many of your points, especially about ''wanting to control something powerful''

There used to be an idiot with a pitbull type that was dog aggressive- I said ''why don't you put it on a lead''

Like a pouting, sulky child, he said ''She don't need no lead''

Sadly that two men I knew of at that time who never used leads ''As their dog always obeys them, and wouldn't ''dare'' disobey a command'' both died in an RTA. {Collie types} A futile waste of lives, as these were nice natured dogs.

You see it in people over horsing themselves.

You see it in inadequates with XL Bullies or other very large dogs that are out of control.

You see it in people wanting ''exotic'' animals as pets, venomous snakes, or chimpanzees, or Servals.

The Dog warden where we live has little faith as well, but also says XL's are a

''concern'' in the community - and says that pitbulls are also common.

The ban currently isn't working with pitbulls.

Decent, well behaved pets are at huge risk from these violent types of dogs.
Children and adults are as well.

@ThePlatypusAlwaysTriumphs So aggressive dogs {involved in a fatal mauling} are kept in kennels for YEARS? - who exercises these aggressive dogs?
I would hope that they are kept in a really secure pound where no one can break in to ''Spring'' them, and also surely they aren't allowed out to be exercised in public?

If they kill or injure a person , it should be euthanasia , not waiting for years for a judge to make up their mind.

Dog aggressive dogs have no place in a safe society , either.

It seems to have got a lot worse since the pandemic.

I hate using language like I'm about too but the family just don't seem very bright and I get the impression they didn't have they dog from puppy.
Showing us clips of young children with it.
The size of dog and that confined space to be fair to the family i think they were probably asked to harness it for the film crew

Sadly that two men I knew of at that time who never used leads ''As their dog always obeys them, and wouldn't ''dare'' disobey a command'' both died in an RTA. {Collie types} A futile waste of lives, as these were nice natured dogs.

I had a neighbour with a similar attitude, until the dog saw something beyond the driveway, ran out into a country lane, and was hit. The neighbour decided to treat me to an especially graphic description of the dog's last moments.

Quite unforgivably, I had to sack a dog walker for taking the same approach with my dog, despite me having gone through his behaviour issues (like chasing vehicles) in exhaustive detail.

So aggressive dogs {involved in a fatal mauling} are kept in kennels for YEARS? - who exercises these aggressive dogs?
I would hope that they are kept in a really secure pound where no one can break in to ''Spring'' them, and also surely they aren't allowed out to be exercised in public?

With those involved in serious or fatal attacks, most of the time the owners see the writing on the wall and consent to euthanasia quite quickly (most, not all, I believe the parents of Kyra King didn't).

The problem comes with dogs that look a bit pit bull ish and are seized on looks alone. Understandably the owners seek exemption.

In the meantime, no one exercises the dogs, they never leave their kennel, owner visits aren't allowed, and the dogs go stir crazy. It's not surprising that after a year or more in solitary confinement with no exercise, many of these dogs come home with brand new behaviour problems they didn't have before. The whole process should be much, much quicker for the dog's sake.

Thankfully the numbers involved with XL Bullies mean they will have to deal with the dogs while they're still living in home - they just don't have the kennel space.

Thanks for info.

I saw an interview with Delia Lewis , the Leonberger owner, about the aggressive XL that killed the dog walker..It was very concerning.The XL dog was dog aggressive and human aggressive prior to the Lethal attack.

Daily mail, but the video is shocking at the clues that were missed.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12524419/How-dog-walker-savaged-death-Surrey-beauty-spot-pounced-giant-pit-bull-rescued-weeks-DAVID-JONES-reveals.html

I had to google...

You are right.

It's the small, cold, soulless dead eyes.

Definatly , it was the eyes that reminded me of it . Dogs have beautiful expressive kind eyes. But the bully breeds have empty and hateful eyes.

I’m actually petrified after seeing the video of Ian Price.
I don’t want to take DD out to the park or anywhere anymore through fear.

These dogs need wiping off the face of the earth, alongside any other aggressive breed.

I’d not want to see that at all
Wouldn't be able to un see it.
Didn’t police ask for any videos circling to be sent to them for evidence and taken down ?

Stupidly I uncovered a pic titled NSFL
I had no idea what L stood for and felt physically Ill at the image- a poor man with his face actually removed by pit bulls as he was on a walk ( not his dogs)
He was alive at time of picture , but died a few days later, poor man

Thee dogs are awful.

@Wiccan I agree about cold killer’s eyes
empty.

NSFL = not suitable for life (for anyone wondering). Definitely ones to avoid.

And another person killed: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/04/man-killed-by-dog-believed-to-be-xl-bully-near-sunderland

I think the defenders of big dogs always miss the essential point, that any dog can turn on you of course, but how much can you defend yourself / another against it in an attack?

If you wouldn't be able to fend it off don't get the dog

This is beyond depressing.
Again, a throat attack.

These brutes according to experts attempt to bring down their victims and then go for the throat.

Just hope that the govt bring in really stringent laws on these types of dogs and enforce it.

Pit bulls have been allowed to be in U.K. despite ban- We can’t arm ourselves in U.K. either against dog attacks.

Last night was reading of the “ Lion tamer” complex that a lot of “ Pibble “ owners have- they get a kick from thinking they can control a large, strong, vicious dog- Rescue centres are bad
RSPCA allowed an American Bully to be fostered with a woman who was terribly mauled by it
I think she lost both arms. ( 2014 ish)
And “ Rescue” XL Pits have killed woman owners both here and in USA.

It’s not the owner- It’s the dog with these Pit types.

The RSPCA and the SSPCA along with any other rescue centres should be told to put down any of these dogs that come into their shelters.

Make it simple It should be illegal to rehome a dangerous dog. That includes selling in a pub, via Facebook or anywhere else.

And the toddler injured in Greenwich, reported a couple of days before. They need to ban breeding of all and any Pitbull lineage dogs now including XL Bullys. And highly restrict existing ones. They should all be muzzled in public. Not sure what that will do a out the ones escaping from houses and gardens though.

That's why they should all be put down