Government to *finally* look at banning XL bullies

[NoCharnce]

Thank goodness. I cannot believe it has taken so long* to even look at banning these awful creatures (I say that as a dog lover). Looks like the viral footage of an XL mauling two men who were trying to defend an 11 year old girl is the straw that broke the camels back.

Tweet direct from Home Sec: https://x.com/suellabraverman/status/1700924751646982312?s=46&t=QlNZXgFJWDXuxa3K3yo7ag

*policy makers have been captured by the RSPCA/Dog’s Trust etc “it’s not the breed, it’s the owner” dogma

And this will do what that the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991 doesnt do?

I'm sorry right but it is down to the owner too.

About time. But, the Dangerous Dog Act already exists to ban pit-bull like dogs. Police aren’t enforcing it, probably because they’re scared of the owners. And dogs!

How does the dangerous dogs act not deal with this, what would be different?

Anyway the government are going to do bugger all, just like they dont do anything with most public safety issues. Its all headlines.

The owner plays a huge part in how a dog acts. I've been bitten but by a dachshund of all things, and I'm a cat owner so not biased.

I used to support a ban but since everything that comes out of suella's mouth is verbal diarrhoea i dont know anymore.

It's a combination of breed and owner of course, but as it's easier to ban a breed than ban people from owning a dog it's the quickest way to make a difference to public safety.

If it ever happens.

I’m terrified of these dogs and really hope something comes out of it. As an immediate action I think dogs should be muzzled in public. For context I’m not a dog owner, I like most dogs but not these big, dangerous breeds. I feel like you should be able to overpower a dog if it decides to attack.

These dogs are mostly owned by idiots unfortunately

Whilst I genuinely understand the point you're making a small dog like that is unlikely to kill my child if it decides to attack

You’d think she’d be more aligned with the RSPCA and Dog’s Trust due to their policy of killing healthy dogs.

something needs to be done
I am a dog person but theres no way in hell anyone would want one of these dogs as a pet under normal circumstances
they are not pets

bully breeds need looking at from a welfare and safety point of view

bring back dog licences

What would this mean if you have one? as a pet, are responsible and the dog isn’t a danger/ has done nothing?

according to the poster in the local post office, the amount of dogs that try to attack or bite post workers, is omg, i could be wrong but i always presumed its the owners upbringing of the dog that heavily influences its behavioral programing ?

I’ve walked one - a neighbours. He was purchased as a pet, bloody useless guard dog. He wet himself when I let myself in, nervous. Got rehomed thank god as he was shut up in a tiny kitchen 9-5. He did have immense capability to cause extreme damage, if he wanted to but don’t other breeds? Rottweilers, GSD, Ridgeback?)

I believe it’s the type of people that get them and what they make them do. Balance training, so they end up ripped like Rambo.

No- I wouldn’t have one, but get rid of them/ ban them and humans will mutate some other monstrosity. It’s us that need to be stopped, hard pill to swallow. Stop breeding.

It would mean you would have to get rid of it, because it's a ticking time bomb. It may not have harmed anyone yet, but if it did turn on someone the outcome would be horrific; many people don't think that's an acceptable risk.

Regardless of all the evidence pointing towards specific breeds being responsible for the recent 34% increase in dog attacks, I’m not sure “it’s bad owners not bad dogs” would be much consolation once you’ve been attacked and/or killed by one of these ridiculous breeds

I don't know why people are pleased about this. It will do exactly the same as banning pitbull types and other breeds to reduce dog attacks which is precisely fuck all.

The people who own these dogs will simply move on to another breed.

The DDA has not worked and is not fit for purpose. The sooner the general public accept that and start pushing for an actual solution the sooner we can actually work to solve the issue.

These dogs were bred for fighting. Of course it's the bloody breed. It's not Chihuahuas killing people.

It won't even need an act of parliament to ban them. The current legislation can just be amended, fairly quickly. Unfortunately organisations like the RSPCA are lobbying against it.

I'd love to see legislation go further though. If your dog bites someone, or kills someone then you should serve time. In the same way you would if you had used a weapon to do the same.

You get irresponsible owners with every breed but not every breed is capable of being a killing machine. Ban the bully breeds. Anyone that has a dog that attacks is responsible for assault/manslaughter/murder etc. It is outrageous we are so slack on this.

@Syndulla Many dogs were bred for fighting by us - we will just go on to breed something else.

I would bloody love to see legislation come in where owners face jail time though.

@Greensleeves Then I hope the legislation doesn’t go through as it won’t work. Not whilst we prance around breeding them.

YESSSS! I wrote to my MP about this months ago and he sounded supportive.

A dachshund is not likely to be fatal. It is down to the owner to an extent but the breed plays a larger part. Any dog can snap and bite unexpectedly despite how well it's been cared for, but XL bullies are bred to be as large and muscular as possible and are often owned by irresponsible owners as a status symbol. There is a young lad who lives near me who has 2 of these dogs and there is just no need for the sheer size of them. They walk around off lead on the local park and I don't feel safe with my kids when they are there.

@FinnRussell GSD, Rottie, Shepherd dogs, Kingsley dogs, Doberman, all could attack and kill.

It does need to be carefully worded not to just apply to this one mutation but to cover us for dogs bred with certain characteristics e.g. exceptionally aggressive, as deemed on a type by type basis when new types become apparent.