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Government to *finally* look at banning XL bullies

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NoCharnce · 10/09/2023 18:57

Thank goodness. I cannot believe it has taken so long* to even look at banning these awful creatures (I say that as a dog lover). Looks like the viral footage of an XL mauling two men who were trying to defend an 11 year old girl is the straw that broke the camels back.

Tweet direct from Home Sec: https://x.com/suellabraverman/status/1700924751646982312?s=46&t=QlNZXgFJWDXuxa3K3yo7ag

*policy makers have been captured by the RSPCA/Dog’s Trust etc “it’s not the breed, it’s the owner” dogma

https://x.com/suellabraverman/status/1700924751646982312?s=46&t=QlNZXgFJWDXuxa3K3yo7ag

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oakleaffy · 03/10/2023 22:57

My Goodness... That's an horrendous list of deaths and carnage posted about Pits and Pit crosses.

This video at the end tells how to ''Avoid'' a mauling- but it sounds like trying to hold back a tsunami with a teaspoon.

This woman was killed by a large pit that she loved and cared for- but it slaughtered her.

At the end, advice is given in what to do if one is targeted.

Good luck with that.

As someone in the comments says ''No matter how sweet and loving they seem, they can snap even years later without warning. You can’t love {Or train} away genetics. ''

Woman killed by her own Pit Bull in Toledo, Ohio

a woman died after being attacked by a family pit bull. The attack occurred at a home in the 800 block of Wright Avenue, just before 6:00 pm. Toledo police a...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjmRu80cH0E

MrsMara · 04/10/2023 16:08

Sarvanga38 · 04/10/2023 10:53

Another 54 year old man killed yesterday.I expect the reports are mistaken, it was probably a Chihuahua.🙄

Another one.

There can be no excuses.

It is so fucking terrible. I fear worse to come because there are so many of this wretched thing out there.

MrsMara · 04/10/2023 16:12

oakleaffy · 03/10/2023 22:57

My Goodness... That's an horrendous list of deaths and carnage posted about Pits and Pit crosses.

This video at the end tells how to ''Avoid'' a mauling- but it sounds like trying to hold back a tsunami with a teaspoon.

This woman was killed by a large pit that she loved and cared for- but it slaughtered her.

At the end, advice is given in what to do if one is targeted.

Good luck with that.

As someone in the comments says ''No matter how sweet and loving they seem, they can snap even years later without warning. You can’t love {Or train} away genetics. ''

This video at the end tells how to ''Avoid'' a mauling- but it sounds like trying to hold back a tsunami with a teaspoon

Exactly @oakleaffy

It is truly frightening that at any given time we could encounter one triggered - and worst a child.

I can't get my head around it, how we have let this happen and that nobody has any idea how many of these dogs are out there.

Boomboom22 · 04/10/2023 16:16

Thank god the owner has been charged with murder. Even if an accident it's exactly the same as wandering around with 2 loaded guns with the safety off, really anyone who has a bully has a weapon prob worse than a gun.

MelodiousThunk · 04/10/2023 16:37

@Boomboom22 the fact that the owner has been charged with murder suggests he set the dog on the victim. CPS don't make a murder charging decision unless they know they will be able to prove intent.

Sarvanga38 · 04/10/2023 16:50

MrsMara · 04/10/2023 16:08

Another one.

There can be no excuses.

It is so fucking terrible. I fear worse to come because there are so many of this wretched thing out there.

There needs to be a change in the law to take in to account serious dog-on-dog attacks too - this dog had attacked other dogs previously, and this death started with an attack on the victim's dog. The owner should have been required to muzzle it from the first serious attack. There needs to be absolute zero tolerance for any anti-social behaviour from dangerous dogs, of whatever breed.

MrsMara · 04/10/2023 16:57

Sarvanga38 · 04/10/2023 16:50

There needs to be a change in the law to take in to account serious dog-on-dog attacks too - this dog had attacked other dogs previously, and this death started with an attack on the victim's dog. The owner should have been required to muzzle it from the first serious attack. There needs to be absolute zero tolerance for any anti-social behaviour from dangerous dogs, of whatever breed.

Muzzled. What when it breaks free from whatever home it resides?

My issue goes beyond a public muzzling. There are so many cases where the owner has been dragged down trying to contain this fucker of a dog.

I don't see any solutions. I see more maimings and killings.

Nothing said on here will prevent what we will all hear about going forward...

Sarvanga38 · 04/10/2023 17:17

MrsMara · 04/10/2023 16:57

Muzzled. What when it breaks free from whatever home it resides?

My issue goes beyond a public muzzling. There are so many cases where the owner has been dragged down trying to contain this fucker of a dog.

I don't see any solutions. I see more maimings and killings.

Nothing said on here will prevent what we will all hear about going forward...

Oh I'm 100% with you, @MrsMara, I'd have them all gone tomorrow, gladly - however, that isn't going to happen. Also agree that none of the proposed changes cover escapes or deaths inside people's houses. There needs to be serious repercussions for any level of anti-social behaviour, and if it starts at far lower boundaries then just perhaps some of the future issues will be prevented. It's about the only hope.

Lots of these dogs that have gone on to kill or seriously injure people have been involved in more 'minor' offences (although tell that to people whose dogs they've killed), and should have been followed up much earlier. Police need to be able to act on these.

I know people bang on about other breeds being just as dangerous, but it is just not true. I have no fear of normal dogs, of whatever size, but these are just manufactured machines. I truly hope that given the number of them compared to the previously banned breeds, and the rate at which numbers are increasing, a different approach will be taken.

I do not feel rescue organisations should be allowed to re-home dogs of this type, sad though I recognise it will be for them in some cases. Advertising should be monitored. I fear this is all vain hope though.

Takoneko · 04/10/2023 18:53

MelodiousThunk · 04/10/2023 16:37

@Boomboom22 the fact that the owner has been charged with murder suggests he set the dog on the victim. CPS don't make a murder charging decision unless they know they will be able to prove intent.

He’s been arrested on suspicion of murder, not charged by the CPS.

Anna8089 · 07/01/2024 12:51

Even the labs where I live are aggressive because people have no idea on basic training.

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sophie12333 · 20/01/2024 15:44

for us as humans to put a dog in a situation where they'd want to attack, we are failing them. This is literally humans fault. Dogs don't understand the consequence of what would happen if they bit someone, humans understand what would happen if they harmed someone, altho this country is weak and punishment isn't enough.

but i am curious as i do agree its really wrong that good owners and good dogs are being punished for this.
what is it that you would have liked to see?
Because we cannot deny these dogs seem to end up in the hands of your local chavs. Jack lis for example, his owner l at his bully

sophie12333 · 20/01/2024 15:46

I didnt finish, but he laughed at his bully lunging at people and jack then suffered the fatality. How does rishi differentiate between these owners? Im genuinely curious. Because i think its mean but also cannot see other ways of working either

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