Government to *finally* look at banning XL bullies

[NoCharnce]

Thank goodness. I cannot believe it has taken so long* to even look at banning these awful creatures (I say that as a dog lover). Looks like the viral footage of an XL mauling two men who were trying to defend an 11 year old girl is the straw that broke the camels back.

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*policy makers have been captured by the RSPCA/Dog’s Trust etc “it’s not the breed, it’s the owner” dogma

You mean like the 11 year old girl who was mauled yesterday in Birmingham after running past one on a busy street?

Of course it’s the breed they are absolutely huge and heavier than a ten year old child. A violent chihuahua is no danger to anyone. This size of dog can and do kill people they are hugely represented in deaths and injury.

@wavws bloody hell, your poor mum. Poor dog stuffed in one room for a decade too.

@Syndulla where was the owner though? What’s their punishment? Because until we clamp down on the breeders and owners we’ll just breed something else. These dogs DPD t create themselves.

I am a dog owner of a doodle type dog and whilst I think all dogs have the capacity to bite, these XL bullies scare the shit out of me. I walk with all sorts from GSDs, St Bernard’s, staffies and a lot of doodles and spaniels and all the owners agree.

If I see one in the park I walk in the opposite direction as I don’t need to interact with a dog that size and my dog who is very sociable, literally walks in the opposite direction if he spots one.

These dogs are 50 kilos + of solid muscle and the poor animals I see more often that not have had their ears cut off and probably traumatised from that as well as being owned by absolute idiots that don’t exercise them and control them with violence.

By all means ban them, confiscate and destroy them but the government needs to get in at the ground floor do a better job of (among lots of other things) of vetting owners and controlling the numbers of dogs in general.

100% owners need to be punished as well as having the dogs taken off them. At the very least they need a ban on owning animals (not that there is any way to enforce that really, it's not like backyard breeders check a database).

But giving a machine gun to an out of control maniac is a lot worse than giving an air rifle to an out of control maniac and I think people do need to accept that about this type of dog.

It is the breed.
Even a lovely, chilled middle class couple wouldn't be able to stop one of those stupid dogs if it goes rogue.

Yep

The dog IS a danger! Get your head around it.
Plus, the ownership of bull breeds is negatively impacted by the dangerously idiotic humans who own those dogs as "pets".

Would be well nice if the aggressive breeds who "have never done anything" would start off with their owners - that would rid us of idiots and rid us of those disgusting animals.

They need to bring back licensing and be really really strict. They would sort out lots of issues including puppy farming and the wrong people owning animals.

I get a bit confused when people compare Bully XL with Daschunds and terriers.

A Howitzers are a gun as are the 2mm Kolibris
But one is gonna rip your body and a 100 other people's into tiny little chunks with zero effort, the other would sting a bit.

The most vicious terrier in the world can do damage, absolutely it can, but a huge fucking Bully XL is like a Howitzer. It'd be no effort at all for it to tear your throat out and rag a small child to death. If you can't see that, you're a bit dense I think.

😂😂😂Will that be before or after she stops the small boats, deports people to Rwanda, etc? Suella is full of sound bites. Twitter doesn't make government policy.

The "it's not the breed" people are as bad as the "guns don't kill people" morons.

Poor mum yes, but I also think she could have done more to get the dog out of the house! Think it would have been kinder for everyone if the police seized it…but they were happy to concede it’s another breed and wash their hands of it.

Did you mean to be a twat?

So many parallels between this argument and the ones you see Americans having about guns. “Criminals always find a way”, “guns don’t kill people, gun owners do”. As a Brit, I always think FFS just fucking ban them. That’s step one. Deal with whatever problem arises instead. Being defeatist and keeping your fingers crossed it doesn’t happen again doesn’t help.

People who spout “it’s not the dog, it’s the owners” are hugely missing the point.

There are many bad dog owners and there are many lovely dogs. However, if a pug or a spaniel or similar suddenly turned, you would have a good chance of fighting it off or injuring it enough to make it stop. Yes, there may rarely be fatalities by other breeds, but the odds are in a person’s favour.

These bully breeds are so powerful, grown adult men and women can not fight them off. The damage they cause is quick and serious. A child, baby ,toddler pensioner and such like would stand no chance against this breed.

Bad owners are irrelevant when you are talking about an animal who has potential to cause quick and fatal damage. We should not be allowing these animals as pets.

@QueenCamilla and your wrong. Because we will just find another breed to mess with.

Personally I’d like to see ownership of all big, powerful dogs phased out. Its unpleasant for people who have to walk past them knowing that they could bite your arm half off if they misread an action and considered you or someone next to you a threat.

They are a breed that attracts irresponsible owners to keep them in inappropriate environments, and unscrupulous breeders who breed specifically for aggression. The breed is large and powerful enough for the upshot of this to lead to the deaths of members of the public, usually children. For this toxic combination, I think a ban is entirely appropriate. Responsible owners can choose a different breed.

@wavws well yes, she should have. Guessing other issues there though. 😕

These bully breeds are so powerful, grown adult men and women can not fight them off. The damage they cause is quick and serious. A child, baby ,toddler pensioner and such like would stand no chance against this breed.

Bad owners are irrelevant when you are talking about an animal who has potential to cause quick and fatal damage. We should not be allowing these animals as pets

Agree - and German Shepherds and the like should also need to muzzled at all times in public.

@anotherside please can we do this with humans too 😂

But also… it’s such a dismissive attitude about these breeds. I own a cavalier King Charles spaniel (you know, dogs so dopey they could be cats). If there was a massive uptick in CKCS attacking and killing children, you fucking bet I’d be terrified of my dog in my house with my children. Even though he’s almost 9 years old and has never shown any signs of aggression. I can’t imagine being so obnoxious or arrogant that I’d just brush it off.

That video is very difficult to watch but what the hell was the idiot owner doing walking the dog in that heat yesterday in the middle of the day when it was boiling hot? 🤦🏻‍♀️ that can't have helped the dog's mood or temperament.

I love dogs, all dogs, I'd have a house full if I could but the XL Bullies scare the shit out of me. There are a couple that get walked near me and I will always go in the opposite direction if I see them if I've got my own dog with me. I've never seen them off lead and for all I know the owners could be super responsible but I know one of them could easily kill my dog if they decided to and it's not a risk I'm willing to take.

I don't know what the answer is. The DDA is useless. And if they are banned then the morons will just move onto something else 🤷🏻‍♀️ we've had the Dobermans in the 70s, then the Rotties in the 80s, then the GSD in the 90s etc etc.