What’s the scariest unsolved mystery you know?

[Mimmy352]

Whether it’s personal or well known, which unsolved case makes your brain sound like dial up?

There’s lots here I’ve always wondered about.

Also;

Trevaline Evans who shut her shop with a “be back in 2 minutes” sign, but never returned.

Spontaneous Combustion

All the strange disaaperances of people in National Parks in America. So bizzare experinced hunters in familiar places just gone. People dissapering from groups. One minute they are there the next poof.

Spontaneous combustion= explained up thread.

People going poof in US national parks= tends to happen in places with abandoned mineshafts, often concealed by undergrowth.

Old mining maps and 'last sighted' maps have a big overlap.

Fascinating thread

This is the story I was writing about.. 😔 😔

The blood wasn’t Ben’s.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-46400497.amp

The blood wasn’t a match to Ben

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-46400497.amp

Elizabeth Barrazza. She was shot dead in her own driveway whilst setting up for a yard sale early one morning (Texas). The whole incident was caught on a neighbour’s surveillance camera but the footage is so grainy and audio so poor the shooter has never been found. It looks as though the shooter was wearing some kind of costume/wig and Elizabeth and her husband were into Star Wars cosplaying. There are words exchanged before the shots were fired so did she know the killer?

I really don’t think MeIDid is Ruth, lots of things Don’t add up to make it here.

Bebo era, she talks about how she can’t let anyone know and insinuates her life would be in danger which I don’t think would be true for Ruth. She says she did something illegal and hints it was to do with the way she disappeared, that if she came forward she’d have to confess about that and it would be a huge mess, again that doesn’t sound anything like Ruth. The poster also says that she “thinks” she was reported as a missing person. Well Ruth definitely was.

They found the killer and he admitted to it. Innocent black men were arrested and spent years in prison.
There was a documentary, it's currently on paramount plus.

What terrifies me is how many of these are very much 'solved' from an investigation perspective but no evidence. Recently a 40+ yr old 'unsolved' mystery was resolved near me. A woman had been sexually assaulted and left naked and dead in waste land. Turns out the case against the suspect collapsed cos the coroner died and the report became inadmissible. They 100% knew he did it and only recently the case was reopened for DNA analysis and the man was finally convinced. Turns out he has lived down the road from me for 40 years, guilty as sin living as a free man.

I often think of Larry Murphy, mentioned upthread. Like most I am convinced he is the serial killer of all the Irish midland murders in the 90s. The police botched up so many investigations, they didn't take notes when someone told them about a sighting of Annie McCarrick, there was a documentary about it recently. I think similar with Jo Jo Dullard. My friend had info on Murphy 3 weeks after Deirdre Jacob disappeared and phoned the police. No one followed up until a year or two ago, over 20 yrs later. As it turns out it probably wasn't relevant but it could have been and they never bothered to check.

MH370
Madeleine McCann
Claudia Lawrence

my sister in law who died on holiday whilst travelling alone. There were suspicious circumstances but in a place where it would never be investigated properly.

I think MM's parents know what happened to her. All these years on and listening to what criminal profilers have to say about the case, that's my conclusion.

Same with Jonbenet Ramsey. What perp breaks into a rich person's house which has alarms, takes a child downstairs and kills them and then writes a 3 page ransom note calling themselves a 'small foreign faction'? Not exactly scary. Nobody refers to themselves as 'foreign'. Not to mention that the 'garrotte' which wasn't actually a garrotte looks like a commando rope and was made with whittled wood (Burke was known for whittling wood all the time - not saying he did it but this was likely something he made and did not intend for it to be a garrotte at the time)

Claudia Lawrence is a really sad case. I feel that if it happened today, it may have been solved because of technology of phones. I think it's much harder for people to commit crimes like this today.

She was psychotic- that's what happens. No mystery.

Yeah, I think it's accepted that she was probably unwell, mentally but that still doesn't explain how she could have ended up in the water tank without someone putting her in there.

The disappearance of Summer Wells .

> I think MM's parents know what happened to her. All these years on and listening to what criminal profilers have to say about the case, that's my conclusion

Police have drug dogs that indicate when they are in the presence of drugs.

Cells release a certain chemical after death.

Police also have indicator dogs which indicate when they are in the presence of the chemical dead people release. Not just decomposing bodies, but even very freshly dead people.

I can't remember the name but I watched a documentary which said that in Madeleine's room it indicated in the wardrobe and also in the boot of their rental car. Of course that can't be used as evidence as hundreds of other people had used the car and hotel room.

There's a theory that the children were routinely sedated so that they would not wake up when the parents were out. Not necessarily with a prescription level drug. Even over the counter antihistamines are routinely (controversially) used by parents for this purpose. Overdose/bad reaction and the child unfortunately passes away.

The child is already deceased and if that was found during an autopsy both would probably lose their medical license and face even heavier social criticism for leaving the children alone.

It was suggested that the body had been disposed of in the sea, meaning it is unlikely to be found.

Yes, there were some known pedophiles in the vicinity, but if you look at the 3 Australian children who disappeared, there were like 6 pedophiles in the vicinity, some of them involved in other disappearances. It's not rare for there to have been a pedophile in the vicinity.

There's a theory that the children were routinely sedated so that they would not wake up when the parents were out. Not necessarily with a prescription level drug. Even over the counter antihistamines are routinely (controversially) used by parents for this purpose. Overdose/bad reaction and the child unfortunately passes away.

Well, see I have a child who is the same age as MM and we were on holiday in a similar place when she went missing and I remember thinking that my daughter wouldn't allow me to do that even if I tried. Also, you're right - that's why Medised was withdrawn which is a shame because if used responsibly, it was incredibly helpful for a poorly child who couldn't sleep.

Mary Boyle, a 6yr old girl who disappeared from Co Donegal in the late 70s. She was an identical twin and vanished into thin air right beside her grandparents house, last seen walking along eating a packet of crisps. I presume witness sightings were compromised because of her twin. I just often think of that other little girl having her other half ripped away from her like that. It must have been unimaginable trauma. It's another one of 'everyone knows' cases I think, poorly investigated too. I don't know much about it myself but often think of her when I see identical twins.

Police also have indicator dogs which indicate when they are in the presence of the chemical dead people release. Not just decomposing bodies, but even very freshly dead people.

The Cadaver Dogs videos are so disturbing , they went crazy the moment they were in that apartment.

Absolutely horrific. Only 21, practically a baby herself in the grand scheme of things. Her poor daughter having this over her entire life. Her daughter is extremely strong to be carrying on her search. Two lives forever changed in one moment.

I’ve never heard of this case until now. Thank you for sharing their story

Claudia Lawrence due to living in York at the time and my occupation.

Ben Needham & Madeline McCann are two very common ones but for the poor parents who have lost any child in unknown circumstances because it must be a living hell.

Suzy Lampugh the estate agent who went to do a house viewing with ‘Mr Kipper’ and never saw again

"Adam" the "torso in the Thames" just the thought of tiny child murdered so horrifically and no one missing him or looking for him.

This might answer some of your questions about Virginia Andrews.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/books/2022/jan/30/out-of-sight-how-flowers-in-the-attic-mirrored-its-authors-captivity

The problem is, it's very open to interpretation. Maybe they had hung up an unwashed cardigan from a charity shop, which had been worn by a 109 year old lady when she died.

But for the dogs to indicate in the wardrobe was very suspicious.

One that hasn't come up is the murder of Lindsey Rimer sometime in the early/mid 90s. To be fair, I probably remember this one because it was local to us and to this day, there are still posters displayed about it in her home town.

She disappeared one night when she'd gone to the shop to buy some cornflakes. Her body was found about a month later but no one has ever been convicted nor motive found. They've questioned people but it all came to nothing. I do find it strange how the alarm wasn't raised until the next morning. Her mum was out and her dad was "on the phone" Surely if you're just on the phone you know whether or not your 13 year old has come back in!